TWG 209: Jeff's Just Here to Party GAME THREAD

[LastOfTheBonehicans]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

With 7 of us alive, we likely have 3 chances to get the last wolf out with our votes, so I had simply been framing my opinions in those terms. You could I guess argue that that is sus of me to be thinking that long-term, but fmpov that is just basic maths and the reality of town's situation.

I am also only giving my opinions so I can get feedback. I would love for people to debate me or find the actual wolf, if I am missing something. It was not intended to be a threat to say that you will probably have difficulty defending yourself directly from a process of elimination situation, just that the circumstances that you find yourself in of there being no real evidence you are not Freezin's partner would be difficult to argue against through defence. It would be more effective, as I said, to show me what I missed with somebody else.

If you are the last wolf, I do empathise that this is game is close to a worst case scenario situation for you currently and that you have gotten unlucky due to things that you cannot control e.g. eye surgery timing and when the game happened to start. No one is judging you for that. I have empathy for Freezin too. He can post well as a wolf when he has more time to do it; he has won against me before. I will keep trying to assess your alignment so long as I am still awake, in any case. I am a bit nauseous so it's hard to say how long that will be.

Well I too wish you good health and the nausea goes away. Never a fun time.

I see your points, I was mainly trying to point out "be wary of those who dictate the pace"

Plenty of games where a wolf gets into a position where they are the ones dictating the pace of the game and the next 4 voting rounds are determined before day 2.

While it certainly can be sketchy, I do truly belive you are town as you never really pushed for anyone last day phase.... and..... drum roll

Let's just look at the break down. Prior to the end

Star was sitting with 2 votes and was going to die -> freezin and blind had votes on them.

Freezin switches votes to Subaru to try and force a tie.

Subaru then casts the death vote to freezin whi tried to switch back to star to force a tie between the two of them.

This likely says - Star and Subaru are clean. Unless some tin foil hat conspiracy where Star and Freezin said ok let's tie whoever dies is revealed wolf and thebother can ride the goodness of being voted by a wolf. Possible but a stretch I think.

Now on to what has transpired.

That leaves us with 5 suspects.

Myself - of course I will state I am town, but you have no reason to believe that. All I can say is I have tried to engage in thoughtful conversation and add value to any of the conversations we have had. That said... I disappeared at the end of voting and was one of the few who did. Laying low in that situation is the best wolf play. You defend freezin and lose and thats game. You defend and win... well why would you help them not get killed and its revealed star is a human.

Nakah (sorry I dont know how to spell your new username and I cant see) - now that it's out yes I know them irl and have played with them over the years plenty of times. Nothing honestly seems out of the ordinary here yet. From what I remember this seems like his playstyle as a human. Again that was 5 years ago or so, but yeah.

With that said, he did nitpicking both myself and round in his first two posts. Round was deemed human. Doesn't clear my name but we do need to note those who did question Round and freezin.

Tps - claimed a power and said that they revealed blind used a power last night.
And they do bring up some decent points in this debate.

Blind came out post vote "I knew freezin was a wolf!!!" Over excitement. Which is grasping at straws until you look at some of the follow up.

Bee line hard press to TPS and then

Asking why didn't you change your vote before day ends... you could ask the same thing to anyone other than Subaru and freezin.

Blind - but here is the interesting counter. They hint heavily that they know TPS has a power. "I have a powerful feeling tps knows something"

Which can easily defend the immediate call out of tps.

They did, however, vote with freezin on star. If freezin does not move the vote to Subaru, star is likely dead right now. Im like 85% sure that blind had the vote first.

Jinx - I honestly dont have a read one way or the other in a sense that they seem the most human of the ones we can logically cross off (Subaru and Star)

I just don't read wolf here. You're voted for me and that makes me sad, but honestly when looking at the big picture, I get the read.

The conundrum is:

1. Both TPS and Blind are green power rangers and we are about to lose both of them (1 is getting voted off and then the other is wolfed)

2. 1 is green 1 is red... and games over latest day phase 3.

Does anyone have any lean either way here? I tend to lean towards blind being the red in this scenario for the sole fact that they claim seer but were told TPS has a power (any game ive played youd get the exact role name)

And the aggression towards TPS immediately. In a game where we have no idea who has roles and how many... seems a little risky.

The only thing throwing me wildly off is if TPS knows blind used a power on him and he's still alive.... I mean sure a seer wolf is possible but do we think that kind of power is in play.

Sorry for my dissertation