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Old 05-11-2016, 08:55 PM   #11
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Default Re: TWG CLII: Another Sleepless Night - GAME THREAD

warning: this town read on roundbox is incredibly selfish and solely based on how he is reading me this game

there are other things that he's done like the reaction to cedo voting me that I thought were towny but there have also been weird things which have left me with him at null until now

let me first start off by saying that I think I'm a very easy player to pocket. a lot of my reads have at least some basis on how people are reading me. I've actually found a bunch of wolves who were pushing on me and trying to twist my words so I tend to inherently think people who are scumreading me are scummy, at least initially. conversely, I tend to feel better about people who are townreading me.

in the game where DBP won as SK (me, rzr, roundbox, DBP final 4), roundbox was the last wolf. He pocketed me that game hard (roundbox why ). I was playing well in terms of getting townread and he hopped on that townread wagon, mixing it in with the rest of his reads (and the progression felt pretty natural too so props for that).

compare this to the freeze wars game (where I was wolf lol). Yes, small sample size, but given how I am as a player I think this is a decent read. In that game at some point I questioned him saying something along the lines of "how do I know you're town, I'm not really sold on you". His response was something like "I pocketed you really hard in that freeze wars game and I actually scumread you initially that time". I looked back and that was true.

Now in this game I feel like he's interacting with me with that same town perspective. He starts off with this post about me saying I look a bit scummy for naming him in relation to the n0 kill.

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The whole interaction between AA and sunfan was started by AA saying "roundbox doesn't make that kill here". If anything, AA gets shittier looking here for tossing my name into the mix.
however, he admits it's not a hard scumread of any sorts in the next post or something when I responded to it.

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only because it's a very, very weak and flimsy piece of evidence
fwiw this does not put me even close to scumreading you for a big reason people still have yet to figure out this phase: WE STILL HAVE OVER 24 HOURS IN THE PHASE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE POSTS. I don't think there's anybody that has posted enough or had enough thread exposure for me to read them properly.
the next post where he brings me up is him being extremely wary of me because of potential pocket

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He has the same reasons for not lynching me as you do, so I guess I can appreciate that. If you're suggesting it's a pocket, he's been pocketing me since his first post about the kill not being me. I am very well aware of what AA is capable of achieving as a wolf so I'm not going to put any town status on him as of yet.

for the record: we should strongly consider posting where we're sleepwalking to tonight in addition to future nights.
this falls more in line with his town play, at the time I thought I was doing alright so I would have bought a townread from him super easily and thought "wow, thanks for reading me correctly", but he's being cautious here and I like that.

this read then progresses to not wanting to lynch me due to WIM which I said earlier I can appreciate and seems pretty natural

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I'm not comfortable with an AA lynch quite yet. His WIM for hunting day 0 makes me feel good. I might be biased because I'm not the greatest at d0 reads, but he doesn't really have a fixed agenda or target. He doesn't look like he's blowing stuff out of proportion for tunneling purposes, so that's pretty cool too.
I also liked this next post but that's probably because I was feeling the pressure and feeling like people were misunderstanding/misreading me at this point

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I see posts pointing out AAs defensiveness but he's hunting as well instead of just responding solely to pings
because I was hunting but *certain* people were definitely ignoring it

oh that's actually the end of his posts on me but I think you see my point, it might be a bad read but this is something I'm feeling pretty good about

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