Is it wrong to be gay?

[bobeck]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

Without consent, are you going to tell me that "just because the animal seemed to like it, it was okay"? Are you going to take the same logic to the human level? "She was drunk! She was getting into it! She liked it!"

I am quite baffled by this comment. This concept ironically seems to be what you are and have been advocating. You've been saying all along "A human must give explicit consent before sexual intercourse!!!" Likewise, an animal must give explicit consent before there can be sexual intercourse with it! (and your point is that an animal can't give this type of human consent, thus you can not have sexual relations with it). Seems to me that you are the one taking the animal to the human level.

Originally Posted by MrRubix

Are you saying that just because an animal is an animal, there aren't similarities in their fundamental functionalities to humans that should require the same types of logical and ethical considerations that uphold social optima, e.g. consent?

Did you happen to miss this phrase ''to the same degree''?

Originally Posted by MrRubix

But to reply to your concept: Good luck trying to justify that allowing a widespread acceptance and legalization of bestiality is somehow essential to improving our social situation while maintaining the fundamental rights we've developed in our current standing.

And I'm still trying to figure out how you were logically able to fit this statement in.