TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Isn't eod at 8pm? The op says 8pm

oh well then it's 6.33 hours now, gives more time for people to catch up

also gives more time to grill certain people if/when they show up

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by YoshL

dbp being sk being your read first is false

Ok

[thesunfan]

got food poisoning last night, might be turning over mod duties to danceguy temporarily, we'll see.
Working on getting the VC up rn.

[rzr]

guess we'll start here I'm done with V, I'll post a reads list then go to rounbox and ymia

[rzr]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

got food poisoning last night, might be turning over mod duties to danceguy temporarily, we'll see.
Working on getting the VC up rn.

Feel better dude, food poisoning is the worst feels!!

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

V is scummier for being quiet as well (though I'm not sure what his working situation and stuff is like, plus he's got a big move in the works) as well as that he seems to be targeting specific players rather than making broad strokes and looking at the game as a whole,

Reminiscent of tokzic last game?

xel is null for putting in work (even if dap thinks it's shoddy) but still not being very loud or active,

Do you still feel this way? If so, can you shed some light on my meta of him.

and AA is pretty well town for analysis, second-guessing his reads, and not only asking questions but doing stuff with the answers he gets.

Someone, I think you, said AA was a terrifying player in the sense that he seems towny more often than not. I would agree, and am interested in this iso now.

Townie = AA, dap, round
weak town = choof
Cautiously optimistic being town = yoshl
null leaning town = red, rzr
null = james may, xel
null leaning scum = V
scummy = ymia, zenith

Where do we stand on ymia and Zenith still? Just feel like your input is the most reliable, regardless of your role, you usually seem to have a good grasp on things and personalities. If I missed anything throw it back at me.

Now, I'm currently on the AA iso and the first thing I really notice is him and Yosh talking about the amound of killing potential in this game. AA looked a lot more interested in town goals, where Yosh comes across more as hunting for info. Just a point.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

something about yoshl seems off to me, his usual aggressiveness seemed to have a bit more desperation/need to be believed than normal. going back to campus so I'll read more later

I'd like to see where you stand now, after last night where there was plenty for Yosh to work with and he was here, he still didn't really respond.

So for the most part AA's big post seems genuine to me. He is digging/prodding for answers, particularly these 2:

big posts from roundbox is giving a town vibe, but why are you reading yoshl as town? do you think he presented himself better in the argument with zenith?

390: this sticks out to me, why even post this? V has posted a lot at this point in the game so there's plenty for you to work with. Seems like an easy way of earning town points by making it seem like you're considering something but want to give someone a chance to defend themselves better first. Except the whole post is bad.

All in all, I didn't do as extensive of an iso on AA here, but I feel much more comfortable following his ymia lynch and seeing where that goes in regards to him.

While looking at Yosh, I can't help but want to see more from how strong he came off earlier. Excellent points on DBP, roundbox, and Zenith. But not much follow up since then.

Originally Posted by YoshL

also AA you're giving me way too much credit, don't try to pocket me

Do you still find this a pocket attempt? Based on interactions I would tend to say there's a very very small chance of a yosh/AA team.
Pushing for the SK still bothers me, without attacking can you or someone explain to me how outing the SK is a good thing? I'm not opposed to it, but off the bat I don't see a benefit YET.

Originally Posted by YoshL

nah, dabackpack is the sk, which would make zenith godfather in that case

And here, I want to really hear what DBP has to say. Regardless of if he is sk or not, how much creedence do we put into Zenith's possible ploy?

Originally Posted by YoshL

back on the other side of the fence goes zenith *fling*

I do gotta admit the way this is phrased had me dying for a minute.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Uhh I didn't read that yet but choof is probably human

Do you still feel this way with him being so aloof as of late?
[this is a bt out of order]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Based on how you worded your first post, I can't say I saw this conclusion coming.

All in all, I see his latest (this morning) attempts as more human, but I am wholly unconvinced. I feel RB is a stronger wolf, or most likely ymia. If that makes sense.

Originally Posted by roundbox

Based on how you worded your first post, I can't say I saw this conclusion coming.

Notig that he starts and finishes here.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I could tell you my thoughts verbatim, but you could also iso his posting history to see the complete works of YMIA. If you do that, I'd like to be convinced about why his behavior doesn't seem wholly neutral and detached compared to others.

Do you think he is being neutral, foolish, or scummy?

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Okay so I feel like choof is human but I also don't trust choof's reads at fucking all he feels like he's swinging on a hinge or something idk usually I come up with better imagery to articulate myself colorfully but it's 10AM and I'm daydrunk

The choof post right under this is somethign I need to address with his iso, I have seen many points raised about choof and don't know him well enough as a player. I still think he's acted like storn was, but will re evaluate this.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

You had a game that confirmed this?

Just saying, but plop hit the nail on the head lol, I like this game a lot and came back to play it now that I'm older. It's the nicest way anyone's ever said it too haha.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I don't think DBP is wolf because he's hella active but if we determine we have an SK setup he would be my top SK concern for his flurry of short detached posts. I could explain in more detail but the gist of my thought process is that SKs find being out in public more comfortable than wolves do. But unlike humans SKs don't actually give a shit about anything.

So you lean DBP town? Just asking, I didn't think he was skirting much questioning.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

xelnya arigaki and red blaster seem kinda irrelevant to this game right now also

How do you feel about AA now? Also what about RB's interactions/lash outs this game?

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

Forget about meta for a moment. Take a sidewards glance at this game; who appears to give a shit about accomplishing some sort of goal or objective with day 1? Usually a good sign. I'm imploring you to think like me for a moment.

Also trying to make distinctions between "agressive" and "vitriolic" is the pinnacle of absolute bullshit only you can tell the difference between. Come on bro, let's be real that's personal vocab wankery.
?

This strikes me as very town.

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

I get it. I like your vote and reasoning well enough here, but pressuring someone once and having them brush it off actually doesn't suggest you should now ignore them because they aren't emotionally stimulating enough for you.

I initially had choof placed far higher in my town pool than V, but this combined with his disappearance has changed that. I also don't think at this point a choof/V combo is likely either.

[choof]

I was uh
only slightly drunk last night

catching up once I get some breakfast in me

[thesunfan]

Votecount:
Zenith (2)- ymia, Plop
red blaster (1)- Yoshl
XelNya (3)- DBP, round, rzr
YMIA (3)- Zenith, AA, V
Yoshl (1)- choof

should be correct

[rzr]

Oh I also had written this when I stumbled across it, but I'm looking into choof now anyway
towards roundbox. And will elaborate if it seems my 2 cents is worth it
rzr

these two bolded sections are direct contradictions[/quote]
Just realized I never saw this and choof would probably appreciate if I answered to him, so I think I've commented on everything about my voting patter, but what I was saying at the time is if I were to vote it'd be roundbox, and that if anyone wanted to know why I would have no problem elaborating (which I did), but that it didn't seem worth stressing at the time, hope that addresses this concern.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

What is the main objection towards XelNya? It got buried to me.

He's been talking a lot without actually saying anything

[roundbox]

Oh good eod is at 8 instead of 3. I will post when I get home from school then

[DaBackpack]

I'm not sure how I feel about his recent posts, they're better, but that massive iso being for a town lean seems like a waste considering that EoD is coming up and he hasn't expressed strong wolf leans in such detail

(from a wolf perspective it's easier to make extensive town reads than wolf reads)

I'm not sure how much to chalk up to tiredness, I think he's legit when he says that, but at the very least he should be a candidate tomorrow if he doesn't step up

[DaBackpack]

the obvious candidate would be YMIA

people are suspicious of rzr, AA, Zenith, and RB, but honestly I find them all town atm (the weakest being RB)

I'm not sure if YoshL's lack of WIM is alignment indicative or just because Fallout 4

[DaBackpack]

The Zenith master wolf could be a possibility, but basing that on one "seer me" comment isn't enough really

[rzr]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

the obvious candidate would be YMIA

people are suspicious of rzr, AA, Zenith, and RB, but honestly I find them all town atm (the weakest being RB)

I'm not sure if YoshL's lack of WIM is alignment indicative or just because Fallout 4

What do you think about red blaster's interactions with myself/AA last night?

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

people are suspicious of rzr, AA, Zenith, and RB, but honestly I find them all town atm (the weakest being RB)

I feel like I should reexamine this though

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

I'd like to see where you stand now, after last night where there was plenty for Yosh to work with and he was here, he still didn't really respond.

still don't like him. Something seems off but I don't have anything definitive. I mentioned that he seems touchy, aggression seems forced, and he's nitpicking over semantics instead of focusing on more substantial things. He's also been in spectator mode but I'm still lynching ymia over him at the moment

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by YoshL

btw, you might want to clarify, whether you're asking if they're aligned with town, with wolves, with eachother, etc.

because they're both definitely aligned.

sorry but this is a stupid thing to say

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

The same could be said of/to you.

@rzr

I think you came off as town, but looking back RB's aggression and responses like this as wolfy

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I have my vote parked on Xel and it's more than likely gonna stay there because I'm not feeling town from him this game. I have write-ups on this

are going to see this?

[DaBackpack]

are we*