TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by rzr

I wanna throw a vote out, but I promised I never would unless forced.

why?

[rzr]

I refuse to. As a wolf it was easier to maintain, I wanna throw a vote now to spark something and if I were to, it'd be on roundbox. But I told the guys in the livetwg I will forever go out of my way to avoid voting if I can, regardless of my role.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by roundbox

also let this be the only talk we have about setup today for the lazy:
Our setup contains either M or MMM (which means we might have masons)

anyone pursuing setup information after this should be hunted down and shot

Actually I'm more interested in seeing him do this over the reasoning behind this public data point.

Curious to see why he felt the need to post this to appeal to players who didn't observe the announced confirmed and what the letters meant.

Why Roundbox?


Oh Roundbox, Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[rzr]

Looks like it's progressing pretty rapidly

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by rzr

But I told the guys in the livetwg I will forever go out of my way to avoid voting if I can, regardless of my role.

why?

voting is a tool in your kit

use it

[rzr]

If I recall, the only time I did vote was to save my skin by voting bunny last game. I did state if I were to it'd be geared towards roundbox. And will elaborate if it seems my 2 cents is worth it

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

I don't know what you're trying to ask here. If you're talking about why round mentioned the mason stuff so early then it's because it's known. Even if you can't do anything serious with it, the fact that it's known means it's going to be mentioned. It doesn't equate to serious setupcrafting. It's like if you have a 300 piece puzzle and find two that fit, it's just saying "yo I found two that fit" rather than saying "yo I think I can figure out where the other 298 go."

I was talking about why the mention when sunfan announced prior to game start.

Overall it doesn't sit right but it is still way too early to have concrete opinions on others.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Hey zenith, what happened to this??

My company left, so everything quieted back down so I can focus on this.

[rzr]

Personally, I do not like to vote because of the wolf rush, and because it screws with the way I analyze player interactions. Again, this was all stated in the livechat, just getting you guys hip

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by rzr

If I recall, the only time I did vote was to save my skin by voting bunny last game. I did state if I were to it'd be geared towards roundbox. And will elaborate if it seems my 2 cents is worth it

your vote is a crystallization of your thought process

your job as town not just hunting wolves, it's also to convince people of your towniness

not voting is sketchy and harms the rest of us trying to scumhunt

[_Zenith_]

You know what.

I just remembered something useful specifically for this phase.

No One

I may be getting ahead of myself here, but I would very much like to absorb this d0 phase and not lynch anyone because it helps everyone in this game for a phase (with obvious checks and balances about this).

[rzr]

DBP, I would respectfully disagree. Though, in terms of the events so far, if I were to place a vote it would not be viable and I don't want to give anyone the chance to run with my thoughts until I form them properly and address them. True, my only power is my vote. That vote, currently, is moot. And if everyone rushed yosh or Zenith right now, I would not be voting. Don't believe in insta, seems too easy to give the game away

[Red Blaster]

Hey guys, I'm at a fest today.
Wont be posting much, but I'll be here Sunday!


Also Anamanaguchi blows live.

[rzr]

Zenith, don't steal my mojo

[_Zenith_]

What I mean about C & B is it means town doesn't mislynch with the offsetting factor that a potential wolf lives free.

Just felt like I had to explain what I meant because without context of reasoning I probably just sent another red flag to some players.

[DaBackpack]

that's not it

your vote doesn't just lynch people

it places pressure and shows the world what your thoughts are

[rzr]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Wolves aren't going to rush and out themselves just to get a single cheap mislynch, especially not d0. And I'm not sure what you mean about analyzing player interactions because if anything seeing who voted for who and when they did it or who voted for who and then went on to read them the same or differently later in the game are incredibly big points to analyze.

Then perhaps later I will place a vote. Rather than you guys asking me why I don't vote, why don't we address who we would vote for

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by rzr

Zenith, don't steal my mojo

Hey, you're the one with slight feelings that I'm a wolf here :V

[YoshL]

still a red flag.

no lynching one day, (assuming there's exactly 1 killing power in the setup) will leave us at 12 tomorrow. assuming we continue to normally lynch, game gets to final 4, instead of final 3. 100% useless, and lynching someone provides a (somewhat) town steered information get. We get flips, and that breeds connections and shit.

a.k.a. zenith still is a fuck

[rzr]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

that's not it

your vote doesn't just lynch people

it places pressure and shows the world what your thoughts are

This I will agree with, and that's why I was close to tossing a vote on roundbox to see his reaction. But I'm not a fan of random votes, and if I ever do you can see it will have been a safety to avoid a phantom.

Let me clarify here since you guys seem to take beef with that meta, I did say I would only vote if forced. I prefer not to. If we have a wolf pinned I'm not going to ignore it. If, as scum, my partner went down hard, I would not ignore it. But, on general principle I do not like to cast a vote if I don't feel it won't give me info/advantage.