TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

I am going to bed
gn I truly hope to have a new avatar waiting for me when I wake up

I want to say this very clearly, too

I think arp's post at EOD was performative, solely because it was made with like a time-stamp of :56, which gives PLENTY of time for potential townspeople to react to it

So WhY nOt KiLl ArP>>
I'm killing Nakah or watching Nakah die this shit is biblical how much I want him to die

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

I am going to bed
gn I truly hope to have a new avatar waiting for me when I wake up

I want to say this very clearly, too

I think arp's post at EOD was performative, solely because it was made with like a time-stamp of :56, which gives PLENTY of time for potential townspeople to react to it

So WhY nOt KiLl ArP>>
I'm killing Nakah or watching Nakah die this shit is biblical how much I want him to die

The only person who townread Arp just died in the night. If Arp is wolf, it'd indicate some sort of bussing strategy but even then I'd leave Subaru alive to keep the town divided for an easier D3. roundbox and/or Raeko just make more sense here.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

It seems the poison fruit vendor wolf used an action this night, assuming sunfan is telling the truth (for all I know they could be PFVW themselves). That would indicate two wolf actions were used last night. I do believe that using night actions does not preclude a wolf from carrying the kill and I'm not sure on what sight meta is for submitting actions on behalf of inactive partners, so I don't think this means for sure two active wolves. Probably the one thing you can say in favor of a w!Arp world is that they chose to kill rather than idle last night, which could suggest they're in a hurry and at least one of the wolves might be in a vulnerable position. It also suggests they're not worried about a long-term seer threat, or maybe they thought Subaru was seer.

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Now that death does genuinely surprise me
gj on getting thoroughly townread, hopecaster

I am firmly and immovably voting Nakah until he

a) dies
b) is replaced with star-crossed (or someone else I guess. Botchi?)
c) becomes so townie that my socks literally fly off my body

We should all insta Nakah and then all vote to expediate the fucking night phase because this shit is basically making town waste a phase dealing with him

Like deadass NAKAH

also I was given a blueberry in the night phase. Idk if the wolves are like
mocking me with this or this is a coincidence, but I am an established blueberry hater

I will probably not dedicate any time to thinking about whether or not the wolves happened to know this or not about me and are taunting me, but it like
feels targeted idk

L Take; Blueberries absolutely rock
Another L Take: I would absolutely try to remember who all could know you hated blueberries (assuming wolves could have picked the fruit and it wasn't like host doing something idk)

Not the most unexpected kill,

Arp is alive so I guess this statement is technically true

we know wolves didn't delay. So, who would've killed Subaru? Nakah definitely didn't. Would've been a strange choice for sunfan, given their suspicions on Subaru's vote and w!sunfan might have felt it was a viable place to push. Arp seems an easy answer, but Subaru switched to TRing them actually and them killing basically their only defender wouldn't make sense, assuming they saw the post anyway. This kill definitely would make sense in a w!Raeko and/or roundbox world, broadly preserves the status quo and provides an easy push on the two CWs.

I think I can agree with everything here more or less except Nakah because if Nakah doesn't submit a nightkill, traditionally on FFR it is random and I don't know if Nakah is even on the sight rn

also if someone wants to post a new avatar for me, I am still in the market
rather tired of the current one

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Voting Nakah here, assuming they remain inactive, is a terrible idea because if a town player is poisoned here, then if Nakah flips town, wolves would just have to kill another town player to secure parity. The same risk exists for any town flip but it's much better to do it on someone we can actually have reads on and not on a slot machine.

Motherfucker unvote shit

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Also, if sunfan has the fruit that means wolves want to leave him alive? Although I suppose that they didn't have too many more options given that anyone who receives the fruit is likely to be read town, sunfan being chosen over MML is probably somewhat worth reading into

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

I think I can agree with everything here more or less except Nakah because if Nakah doesn't submit a nightkill, traditionally on FFR it is random and I don't know if Nakah is even on the sight rn

Pretty sure both players have to be inactive for it to be random, so the Subaru kill was a deliberate choice

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Reminder that we could have killed Nakah last phase instead of someone who was actually playing the fucking game and we wouldn't be in this situation where we have a dead slot who could lose us the game whenever they get modkilled

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Pretty sure both players have to be inactive for it to be random, so the Subaru kill was a deliberate choice

Fair I don't know why I just assumed there was one wolf lmao

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

OK I did not intend to stay up this late because I've been running all day and was dead tired like 3 hours ago so I am goin to bed. Only stayed up to see who was getting killed

When I get back in the morning I will ISO Subaru first

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

As for Zenith, what can I say? Them flipping town at least clears things up a lot more than Nakah flipping town would've. I myself was pretty surprised how quickly people were willing to jump ship off of Arp, I believe we had five people on that wagon (though not all concurrently). I could say that roundbox's movements both on and off that wagon were very unimpressive but I don't want to get too confbiased here. If Arp truly is wolf then the people who acquiesced to the Arp wagon but quickly jumped to the Zenith wagon (aka roundbox, MML) would be the most suspect (Subaru switched as well but they flipped town)

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

I never said it was something of significant length, but it does make up the majority of their posts. Those 7 posts I mentioned were consecutive after all the math

Let's move on since arp is here now

unvote Subaru is scaring me with that vote

Okay, roundbox did unvote Arp earlier than I remembered but the Zenith vote still reads as opportunistic and the "Let's move on since arp is here now" seems pretty suspect. It's also after sunfan unvoted, so yeah.

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Arp trying to solidify a counter wagon on zenith

Over/under wolfchat idea?
You've got me tinfoiling everywhere now, sunfan

There's this weird post but eh

roundbox's other posts on Zenith are uninspiring, being "willing to vote" them when they were inactive but like their only substantial "read" on them was "nitpicking" them not pushing me harder

[the sun fan]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

It seems the poison fruit vendor wolf used an action this night, assuming sunfan is telling the truth (for all I know they could be PFVW themselves). That would indicate two wolf actions were used last night. I do believe that using night actions does not preclude a wolf from carrying the kill and I'm not sure on what sight meta is for submitting actions on behalf of inactive partners, so I don't think this means for sure two active wolves. Probably the one thing you can say in favor of a w!Arp world is that they chose to kill rather than idle last night, which could suggest they're in a hurry and at least one of the wolves might be in a vulnerable position. It also suggests they're not worried about a long-term seer threat, or maybe they thought Subaru was seer.

Usually, wolves can perform night actions and the night kill at the same time on ffr. I imagine it would be listed if it wasn't the case here.

Couldn't sleep, am tired but cant sleep

I recognize that a Naka kill plus a village death from vig plus a wolf kill is a loss, I knew that was the case when I voted Naka

Naka just probably has to die

[leetic]

Re: TWG Turbo 39: Timing Error [GAME THREAD]

Usually, wolves can perform night actions and the night kill at the same time on ffr. I imagine it would be listed if it wasn't the case here.

Couldn't sleep, am tired but cant sleep

I recognize that a Naka kill plus a village death from vig plus a wolf kill is a loss, I knew that was the case when I voted Naka

Naka just probably has to die

If we can flip one wolf I'll allow people to consider Nakah. Going into F5 with two active wolves will in most scenarios end disastrously, we need to hit the wolves where it hurts. 'Til then I'm vetoing any attempt to lynch Nakah.