TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #616
    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by mellon_collie
    So do you think it's Zenith or bust then? or you think me or Haze should be above leetic for some reason?
    If you read my posts from earlier in the day I have already removed Leetic from the table for a strong, active D0 and for his push on Roundbox being consistent with his day's progression

    I also think his answers to my push this phase where solid enough

    I also think Haze's case on them is weak and lacks a certain context

    Frankly Leetic is above literally every one of you and it you make me vote Haze (my next town lean) to save him I'll do it

    Vote should honestly be between Zenith and Raeko. Haze feels like confused town but Zenith just feels like he has an agenda and Raeko just feels like she's trying to stay just active enough without really making pushes of her own

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    • leetic
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2020
      • 7

      #617
      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by Haze with a Z
      He seemed to confirm it while saying suboptimal kills and even said that if they were gonna kill someone like that they’d kill me
      Now I'll reveal the point of some of what I'm doing. Zenith was saying that roundbox was a terrible kill and that they'd never do that. But when I posed the question of who they would actually kill in this situation, they couldn't come up with a meaningful answer. If you're suspecting anyone for that logic, it should be Zenith.

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      • Haze with a Z
        Registered User
        • Feb 2024
        • 5

        #618
        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

        Lar have you even read what leetic is saying?

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 7

          #619
          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by Haze with a Z
          Your logic for other ways appears to have a large chance of it backfiring through which makes it then seem like they’d still be killed even if other options exist
          All options have a chance of backfiring. If roundbox wasn't the seer, killing them could leave the real seer to check the wolf. It's just the nature of the game.

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 7

            #620
            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by Haze with a Z
            Lar have you even read what leetic is saying?
            I was about to ask you the same thing

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            • Haze with a Z
              Registered User
              • Feb 2024
              • 5

              #621
              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by leetic
              Now I'll reveal the point of some of what I'm doing. Zenith was saying that roundbox was a terrible kill and that they'd never do that. But when I posed the question of who they would actually kill in this situation, they couldn't come up with a meaningful answer. If you're suspecting anyone for that logic, it should be Zenith.
              I thought zenith said that roundbox was who they would be killed and that you have been arguing against they and coming up with crappy logic on why they’d live

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              • leetic
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2020
                • 7

                #622
                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by Haze with a Z
                I thought zenith said that roundbox was who they would be killed and that you have been arguing against they and coming up with crappy logic on why they’d live
                Reread their ISO then

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                • mellon_collie
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2017
                  • 156

                  #623
                  Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by leetic
                  I've played and won as SK and I know it's nothing like what Zenith said it was lol. Also, Zenith clarified their point, might want to take that into account.
                  so have I but sure OK

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                  • leetic
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 7

                    #624
                    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by _Zenith_
                    I hadn't given it much thought, but it would have been anyone else other than roundbox. I think it would have been manageable for anyone to have gone through this phase as a wolf with an outed (and powerless) blue, and probably would have led to more beneficial outcomes as the wolf.

                    Roundbox was the glaringly obvious kill and I think we are all lying to ourselves if we would have expected a kill outside of him here.
                    Like look at just this post for instance

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                    • leetic
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 7

                      #625
                      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                      Originally posted by mellon_collie
                      so have I but sure OK
                      Wow, a post that doesn't actually respond to any of my points!

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                      • Haze with a Z
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2024
                        • 5

                        #626
                        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by leetic
                        All options have a chance of backfiring. If roundbox wasn't the seer, killing them could leave the real seer to check the wolf. It's just the nature of the game.
                        Block and kill percentages if random are the same. But then you make it sound like ideal play is to check them which is when fypov you should kill them to limit the number of clears

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                        • mellon_collie
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2017
                          • 156

                          #627
                          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by leetic
                          Now I'll reveal the point of some of what I'm doing. Zenith was saying that roundbox was a terrible kill and that they'd never do that. But when I posed the question of who they would actually kill in this situation, they couldn't come up with a meaningful answer. If you're suspecting anyone for that logic, it should be Zenith.
                          How would a town be able to come up with a meaningful answer for something that they don't have to do and wouldn't have had to think about until you posed the question? I don't really get the point of what you're doing, I guess

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                          • Haze with a Z
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2024
                            • 5

                            #628
                            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                            Originally posted by leetic
                            Like look at just this post for instance
                            Literally look at the last sentence. “Roundbox was the glaringly obvious kill and I think we are all lying to ourselves if we would have expected a kill outside of him here.”

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                            • mellon_collie
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2017
                              • 156

                              #629
                              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by leetic
                              Wow, a post that doesn't actually respond to any of my points!
                              Because your point is just about how you think a certain role would play rather than what Zenith actually said in his own words. And you think you know better because you have won as SK even though I have too. Don't really know how to respond to that

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                              • leetic
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2020
                                • 7

                                #630
                                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by mellon_collie
                                How would a town be able to come up with a meaningful answer for something that they don't have to do and wouldn't have had to think about until you posed the question? I don't really get the point of what you're doing, I guess
                                If you're so sure that roundbox was a bad kill, you had to have put some thought into it, unless you're just making stuff up to try to get the heat off of you

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