TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #421
    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

    Zenith going ham defending himself from a dead player who can't respond feels more like a rebuttal to me saying we should go see what Round had to say and like

    Yo the game can't be that easy.

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    • leetic
      FFR Player
      • Apr 2020
      • 7

      #422
      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      Zenith going ham defending himself from a dead player who can't respond feels more like a rebuttal to me saying we should go see what Round had to say and like

      Yo the game can't be that easy.
      It does feel a bit preemptive? The one good thing I can say is I don't see why Zenith would make the kill if they see that it would look very bad for them, but maybe they felt they had no better option? The whole thing feels like a noob move, is Zenith the kind of player who does that kind of thing?

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      • MixMasterLar
        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2006
        • 5401

        #423
        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

        Originally posted by leetic
        It does feel a bit preemptive? The one good thing I can say is I don't see why Zenith would make the kill if they see that it would look very bad for them, but maybe they felt they had no better option? The whole thing feels like a noob move, is Zenith the kind of player who does that kind of thing?
        I've been very critical of their play in the past but I think the most likely scenario is they decided it would be better to cut Round out, then started to panic a little when people brought them up D2/I said Round was likely onto the wolf

        I e he didn't think people would make much of the connection when he sent the kill in, not that he made some sort of mistake

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        • MixMasterLar
          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2006
          • 5401

          #424
          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

          I reread Leetic's EOD btw and the only mark against him is the wording/way he addressed Round

          I am wondering if that's just a culture thing and nothing more. Leetic's reads seemed pretty consistent and he was talking between Rounds and Xel long before Round was a viable lynch. I also stand by that his D0 was generally solid and even knowing Round's flip I sorta get Leetic's side more

          Keeping em in the town pile

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          • leetic
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2020
            • 7

            #425
            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by MixMasterLar
            I've been very critical of their play in the past but I think the most likely scenario is they decided it would be better to cut Round out, then started to panic a little when people brought them up D2/I said Round was likely onto the wolf

            I e he didn't think people would make much of the connection when he sent the kill in, not that he made some sort of mistake
            The reason I ask this is that as there is a wolf blocker w!Zenith had a lot more options than simply wolfing roundbox. However, Zenith may have felt drowned out by people suspecting them, so their only real options may have felt like roundbox, Raeko, and perhaps Haze, and it's easier to understand why roundbox would have been the preferred target of the three, especially if Zenith wasn't confident in their social game. If Zenith wanted to throw town off the scent, they could have killed me, but who was my third suspect after roundbox and XelNya? You could say Raeko, but they're just as incriminated by the roundbox kill. W!Zenith might have thought of the kill as a necessary evil.

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
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              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #426
              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by leetic
              The reason I ask this is that as there is a wolf blocker w!Zenith had a lot more options than simply wolfing roundbox. However, Zenith may have felt drowned out by people suspecting them, so their only real options may have felt like roundbox, Raeko, and perhaps Haze, and it's easier to understand why roundbox would have been the preferred target of the three, especially if Zenith wasn't confident in their social game. If Zenith wanted to throw town off the scent, they could have killed me, but who was my third suspect after roundbox and XelNya? You could say Raeko, but they're just as incriminated by the roundbox kill. W!Zenith might have thought of the kill as a necessary evil.
              Perhaps

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              • MixMasterLar
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                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #427
                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                I'm declaring intent to vote Zenith in like 4 hours assuming that A- he doesn't show effort and convinces me we're on the same team and B- I see strong posts from other players

                Meaning Haze and Raeko and I think I specifically want to see more Raeko because killing Round n1 regardless of context is the type of joke she'd find funny, if I'm being honest

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                • leetic
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2020
                  • 7

                  #428
                  Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                  I'm most likely not gonna vote 'til at earliest an hour before EoD or thereabouts as I don't want to risk an early hammer.

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                  • mellon_collie
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2017
                    • 156

                    #429
                    Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by leetic
                    The reason I ask this is that as there is a wolf blocker w!Zenith had a lot more options than simply wolfing roundbox. However, Zenith may have felt drowned out by people suspecting them, so their only real options may have felt like roundbox, Raeko, and perhaps Haze, and it's easier to understand why roundbox would have been the preferred target of the three, especially if Zenith wasn't confident in their social game. If Zenith wanted to throw town off the scent, they could have killed me, but who was my third suspect after roundbox and XelNya? You could say Raeko, but they're just as incriminated by the roundbox kill. W!Zenith might have thought of the kill as a necessary evil.
                    This seems overly complex for what to me seems like a pretty simple situation

                    I think roundbox was the obvious kill there, otherwise the wolf would be making more work for themself. Even if he was blocked every night, the wolf will have to deal with him in thread and that seems way too powerful for a wolf to just leave someone with if they can kill them instead. They would have had to work around an obvious clear player which is way harder to do than just getting rid of him.

                    idk but I don't think we can really read much into that kill. I think everybody here can agree that nobody in this game but especially roundbox would not have claimed seer as town, so we all knew he was telling the truth, he was dead no matter who the wolf is

                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    Meaning Haze and Raeko and I think I specifically want to see more Raeko because killing Round n1 regardless of context is the type of joke she'd find funny, if I'm being honest
                    I mean it does make it more convenient when we are not both playing at the same time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But lol no I wouldn't do that. I'd kill him no problem, but there would be a reason!

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                    • MixMasterLar
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #430
                      Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                      I disagree with Raeko that killing Roundbox was an obvious forgone conclusion, but I suppose I don't have much more to add

                      Stuff to ask about in post

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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5401

                        #431
                        Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                        I see the game will not be seriously played before votes are made, huh

                        I can speed that up if people need me to

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                        • leetic
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 7

                          #432
                          Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by mellon_collie
                          idk but I don't think we can really read much into that kill. I think everybody here can agree that nobody in this game but especially roundbox would not have claimed seer as town, so we all knew he was telling the truth, he was dead no matter who the wolf is
                          I would not have been so confident to make that assumption. Perhaps that is a sign that the wolf is someone more familiar with roundbox, so slightly good look for Haze

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                          • leetic
                            FFR Player
                            • Apr 2020
                            • 7

                            #433
                            Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                            Also, I'm not sure that anyone here would be above claiming seer as wolf to buy another day. It'd be a very desperate move and the game'd likely be lost anyway, but a skilled wolf could play around that paranoia. Still, the fact that roundbox was killed means either the wolf didn't think that far ahead or had more pressing concerns

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                            • leetic
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 7

                              #434
                              Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by _Zenith_
                              TIL that parking a vote on someone that hasn't spoken yet = wolfy
                              Leaving thread/viewing thread is so tinfoil and out of bounds I'm thoroughly shocked you guys still reserve feelings that influence the game over that.



                              note the complete lack of a case against me (it starts here)



                              yet again like, I'm being leaned red at this point for not being in thread 24/7 and for a shit vote I tossed out to get an interaction out?



                              I'm gonna scream with the lack of a case against me!!!



                              He did not realize I was not the only one who didn't hypo, several didn't. I'm pretty sure there were only two that I caught so the point of it was immediately useless?

                              To me it felt like that was a forced habit from turbos? Maybe it's meta to do them but this is my first turbo, I don't have that kind of information about them.



                              Alright so I'd really like to see where the case people have against me is and why I'm specifically under the scope for the day? I think town finds out plenty by looking through MML/Raeko through their interactions with roundbox instead of trying to focus on a case that had nothing substantial on it consistently last phase.
                              If you're gonna respond to other people's cases on you, mind doing it on the people who can actually respond?

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                              • leetic
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2020
                                • 7

                                #435
                                Re: TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

                                Zenith's only contributions this phase were complaining about MML's handling of EoD (but not actually pushing them for it) and responding to the case of a dead person. Not the most impressive effort, especially when they've had all this time to catch up and gather thoughts.

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