TWG 207: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

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  • mellon_collie
    FFR Player
    • May 2017
    • 156

    #76
    Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
    Throw a vote
    throw ya dick!!

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    • Hakulyte
      Galaxy Collapse says hi
      • Jul 2005
      • 4697

      #77
      Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

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      • Hakulyte
        Galaxy Collapse says hi
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #78
        Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

        I guess the above might be too intimidating.

        So, to set the bar really low I will do a shaky low quality read list first. Please tell me how wrong I am so, I can adjust.

        MML leaning wolf because guts, he said nice things about me and he also talked about me therefore I'm paranoid of him.
        T-Force null because he could have said all his posts as both alignment. I'll give free town D1 pass for now let's go.
        Dafty leaning wolf because first post is a comment.
        Arp! Awfully town. It doesn't matter if not town, he tried. I like that. Thanks for trying!
        ToonE156. He asked a question. Absolutely top town. A wolf would have commented. Trust me. (actually, don't)
        XelNya wolf. Too comfy, anime gifs, I'm sensing more confidence than nihilism. Clearly this can only mean one thing. Also, he talked about me. Paranoia peak.
        mellon_collie this is tricky, I'm leaning town for now, but that's trickier to gauge in a PR game.
        Sourissette obvious new town player. Enough said.

        Missing _Zenith_ / Lightknight 'cause didn't post.

        Okay so, wolf team is Xel/MML/Dafty > (Lightknight or Zenith)

        Votes don't matter this phase because it could end the game if Millium gets voted out so, I think the best course of action is to -still- try to find out who's town and who's scum and let the night actions solve the rest by going for "no lynch" until jailer is rip.
        Even so, making a general consensus on who is town and who should get solved should be a priority.
        If you're new, focus on helping us know your alignment and vets will probably figure something out as the process of elimination becomes clearer.

        Sounds good ? Yes/No ?

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        • XelNya
          [Kaho]
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Sep 2012
          • 3369

          #79
          Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by Hakulyte
          I guess the above might be too intimidating.

          So, to set the bar really low I will do a shaky low quality read list first. Please tell me how wrong I am so, I can adjust.

          MML leaning wolf because guts, he said nice things about me and he also talked about me therefore I'm paranoid of him.
          T-Force null because he could have said all his posts as both alignment. I'll give free town D1 pass for now let's go.
          Dafty leaning wolf because first post is a comment.
          Arp! Awfully town. It doesn't matter if not town, he tried. I like that. Thanks for trying!
          ToonE156. He asked a question. Absolutely top town. A wolf would have commented. Trust me. (actually, don't)
          XelNya wolf. Too comfy, anime gifs, I'm sensing more confidence than nihilism. Clearly this can only mean one thing. Also, he talked about me. Paranoia peak.
          mellon_collie this is tricky, I'm leaning town for now, but that's trickier to gauge in a PR game.
          Sourissette obvious new town player. Enough said.

          Missing _Zenith_ / Lightknight 'cause didn't post.

          Okay so, wolf team is Xel/MML/Dafty > (Lightknight or Zenith)

          Votes don't matter this phase because it could end the game if Millium gets voted out so, I think the best course of action is to -still- try to find out who's town and who's scum and let the night actions solve the rest by going for "no lynch" until jailer is rip.
          Even so, making a general consensus on who is town and who should get solved should be a priority.
          If you're new, focus on helping us know your alignment and vets will probably figure something out as the process of elimination becomes clearer.

          Sounds good ? Yes/No ?
          Ignoring your reads list entirely and going for just the bottom of the post because its where more can be done, I think your post comes off as trying to subtly inspire less interactions by indicating we no lynch instead of fail to lynch, which sits bad with me for the moment

          Rest of day will now be spent with determining malice for your slot for me personally

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          • Hakulyte
            Galaxy Collapse says hi
            • Jul 2005
            • 4697

            #80
            Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by XelNya
            Ignoring your reads list entirely and going for just the bottom of the post because its where more can be done, I think your post comes off as trying to subtly inspire less interactions by indicating we no lynch instead of fail to lynch, which sits bad with me for the moment

            Rest of day will now be spent with determining malice for your slot for me personally
            Why is your priority not making me town read you ? There's no point to create conflict over me being wrong if you're town.

            No lynch is the best play for town here btw. It's not even an option fmpov.

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            • Hakulyte
              Galaxy Collapse says hi
              • Jul 2005
              • 4697

              #81
              Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

              ps: No lynch doesn't imply we shouldn't figure out who's town/scum. It's just night actions logistics.

              I'm doing this because I want to get a feel of everyone's intentions while playing this game. I'm playing this like everyone rolled VT and I want to see who I can read. The night phase is just bonus points.

              I hope people respond to me like they're VTs to avoid PR hunting too obviously.

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              • XelNya
                [Kaho]
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 3369

                #82
                Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by Hakulyte
                Why is your priority not making me town read you ? There's no point to create conflict over me being wrong if you're town.

                No lynch is the best play for town here btw. It's not even an option fmpov.
                Priority is prodding and getting people to interact, not worrying about my own hide.

                I prodded Arp because I knew based on pregame I could and they'd play my file as intended. We got more from it than that, or at least I did, but you can interpret that for yourself.

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #83
                  Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                  I'm sorry do I lack guts as town?

                  Originally posted by mellon_collie
                  throw ya dick!!
                  You can't just keep claiming your pro pressure every game and then think that's actual pressure

                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  ps: No lynch doesn't imply we shouldn't figure out who's town/scum. It's just night actions logistics.

                  I'm doing this because I want to get a feel of everyone's intentions while playing this game. I'm playing this like everyone rolled VT and I want to see who I can read. The night phase is just bonus points.

                  I hope people respond to me like they're VTs to avoid PR hunting too obviously.
                  I don't understand how you can suss out intentions without voting and I know there isn't going to be a way to hold player's accountable for their actions without hanging someone

                  If we're going to let night actions determine the game I could just go dip right now and check in a week if I won or not, like what way to play the game is that?

                  Acting like everyone is VT also rubs me the wrong way but it's not worth launching into at the moment

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                  • Hakulyte
                    Galaxy Collapse says hi
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 4697

                    #84
                    Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    Priority is prodding and getting people to interact, not worrying about my own hide.
                    Ok, but if others want to prod you then what ? Do you not see the problem ? It's supposed to be a two-way street.
                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    I'm sorry do I lack guts as town?
                    Nah, I'm saying it's a guts feeling on my side.
                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    I don't understand how you can suss out intentions without voting and I know there isn't going to be a way to hold player's accountable for their actions without hanging someone
                    This is not a regular game. You're playing minesweeper right now. There's mines everywhere. You're gonna need to play formal and friendly. That's why I want to priorize townies and let night phase solve the rest.

                    We need transparency to understand who's town while avoiding to share information about who's a PR. The game can literally end tonight if this is not taken seriously.
                    Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                    - “No Lynch” is ON, but only IF the Jailor is alive. Also, until the jailor is removed from the game, lynches MUST be insta. "Having the most votes" will not result in a lynch.
                    This is incredibly important because we want town to guarantee that Millium does not get insta'd by accident.

                    Town can randomly insta Millium and lose. This won't happen with no lynch.
                    The vigi can randomly shoot Millium and lose.
                    Scum can randomly NK Millium and win.

                    This stuff needs to be mechanically optimized.

                    I understand if people don't want to read the OP, but we have to play around the OP. It's not just roles, it's tweaked roles with specific rules on top of it.

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #85
                      Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                      I think my issue with this plan is that you can't find any prioritize townies when you have no way to variety, or even test, their sincerity. The daily vote is the tried-and-true way to do so

                      I understand the Merlin is in the game and that's scary but it seems that your plan around this is to just have everyone try to "find" town doing the day with no real way to do so and then try to resolve everything doing night phases, in which the Merlin is still in danger like before and the only real difference is that we've lost agency as town to find each other easier.

                      It sucks that we could insta one player and just flat out lose but the solve is that the player that rolled that role will just have to play optimally and hope friendly PRs find/protect them. The solve can't be to play less of the game

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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5401

                        #86
                        Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                        Damn autocorrect really janking up my style

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                        • Hateandhatred
                          "The Quebec Steparatist."
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 1974

                          #87
                          Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                          (OOC)

                          Heads up everyone!

                          I'm heading out for the day to attend my nephew's birthday. I will likely be back tonight, but in the meantime, Sunfan will be large and in charge. Should anything requiring host involvement happen, he will be taking care of that.

                          Have fun!
                          Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                          • Arp!
                            The Toaster Poster
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2022
                            • 264

                            #88
                            Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                            Originally posted by XelNya
                            I prodded Arp because I knew based on pregame I could and they'd play my file as intended. We got more from it than that, or at least I did, but you can interpret that for yourself.
                            so what you're saying is I got played twice in two games

                            and it's still the first day of the second game

                            wowzers

                            it/its

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                            • MixMasterLar
                              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 5401

                              #89
                              Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                              Arp, talk to me

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                              • Arp!
                                The Toaster Poster
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2022
                                • 264

                                #90
                                Re: TWG 208: The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (side-episode) [GAME THREAD]

                                sure! how are you this morning?

                                it/its

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