Leaderboard D9 new name and color

[sff_writer_dan]

Re: Leaderboard D9 new name and color

This hierarchy is particularly hilarious because not only does it imply that D1 is sub-competent, but it also makes D2 synonymous with condescending descriptors like "adequate," "satisfactory," and "milquetoast".

I don't have any vested interest in division nomenclature, I just thought this was amusing.

Yeah I'd probably stay away from things like 'competent' implying anybody below that is incompetent. Though from the perspective of the majority player of FFR, anybody under 20 or 30 skill rating -is- incompetent so...

[justin]

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Those are valid points and I'm not married to the title of "Competent" by any means - I was more just trying to indicate that Intermediate for D2 doesn't make sense to me and a renaming of D1/D2 to shift the rest up might make the most sense. Definitely open to ideas - was looking for something to indicate better than "brand new" (novice) and less than "average" (intermediate), so if others have suggestions I'm definitely keen to hear those.

[xXOpkillerXx]

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idk how Yes is winning the poll but there's almost no representation in the thread itself, did someone just log a bunch of alts or something?

There's likely not much to say when someone is in agreement, whereas someone who votes "No" will be inclined to suggest what they think is a better alternative. Imo that's normal and expected.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: Leaderboard D9 new name and color

Those are valid points and I'm not married to the title of "Competent" by any means - I was more just trying to indicate that Intermediate for D2 doesn't make sense to me and a renaming of D1/D2 to shift the rest up might make the most sense. Definitely open to ideas - was looking for something to indicate better than "brand new" (novice) and less than "average" (intermediate), so if others have suggestions I'm definitely keen to hear those.

I don't remember who suggested it, but if you mix that shift with moving Novice to D2 and calling D1 "Beginner", that's probably better.

Also @sff_writer_dan I'm 100% for mapping song difficulty names to the leaderboard divisions, but it can very much wait if it's any sort of challenge (somehow) code-wise.

[jacobvl39]

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Aren't "novice" and "beginner" synonyms? Does one seem higher than they other?

[justin]

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Aren't "novice" and "beginner" synonyms? Does one seem higher than they other?

This is why I didn't move Novice out of the bottom -- it is synonymous with "new to something", i.e. beginner or newcomer.

I think the most realistic thing here is likely adding something in place of "competent" in what I outlined, though we could also rename Novice while we're at it if it made sense to do so given a name chosen above that. Rookie was something else that crossed my mind, but fairly synonymous with novice still.

[rushyrulz]

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Those are valid points and I'm not married to the title of "Competent" by any means - I was more just trying to indicate that Intermediate for D2 doesn't make sense to me and a renaming of D1/D2 to shift the rest up might make the most sense. Definitely open to ideas - was looking for something to indicate better than "brand new" (novice) and less than "average" (intermediate), so if others have suggestions I'm definitely keen to hear those.

Adept instead of competent, might slot better into the D3 slot than D2 slot tho, I'd say Adept > Intermediate

[justin]

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Alternate suggestion that moves up from D4, though I still think intermediate at D2 is odd...

D1 Novice
D2 Intermediate
D3 Advanced
D4 Superior / Distinguished
D5 Expert
D6 Master
D7 Grand-Master
D8 Legendary
D9 Godly

[Lights]

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I'll throw my hat into the ring here.

D1 Beginner
D2 Novice
D3 Intermediate
D4 Adept
D5 Advanced
D6 Expert
D7 Master
D8 Legendary
D9 Godly

Clear progression between stages, titles roll off of the tongue, and it loosely sticks to the old structure.

[rushyrulz]

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u can't do guru dirty like that.

[Lights]

Re: Leaderboard D9 new name and color

u can't do guru dirty like that.

I personally don't like the name guru and don't think it fits very well in the list.

Some may value its historical significance but quite frankly i don't and it wasn't included.

[CrashTheBoard]

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I'll throw my hat into the ring here.

D1 Beginner
D2 Novice
D3 Intermediate
D4 Adept
D5 Advanced
D6 Expert
D7 Master
D8 Legendary
D9 Godly

Clear progression between stages, titles roll off of the tongue, and it loosely sticks to the old structure.

I like this one quite a bit

[rushyrulz]

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it's neck and neck folks

[Pretentious]

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no more names, just use the numbers.

[justin]

Re: Leaderboard D9 new name and color

I'll throw my hat into the ring here.

D1 Beginner
D2 Novice
D3 Intermediate
D4 Adept
D5 Advanced
D6 Expert
D7 Master
D8 Legendary
D9 Godly

Clear progression between stages, titles roll off of the tongue, and it loosely sticks to the old structure.

I first thought about Beginner > Novice > Intermediate too, but Beginner and Novice are in essence the same word.

"a person new to or inexperienced in a field or situation."
"a person just starting to learn a skill or take part in an activity."

Those are the definitions for Beginner & Novice, in no particular order -- if you had to place one before the other which would you put first, why, and would it really make sense to have those 2 cover the first 2 of 9 total divisional thresholds for skill?

I don't personally feel like Adept is much better than Competent either, but I don't feel like I need to die on that hill.

I do like that you pulled Guru too though!