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  • mellon_collie
    FFR Player
    • May 2017
    • 156

    #3481
    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

    Originally posted by Celirra
    ps

    in case you guys needed a reminder
    im storn's partner
    storn is town
    lets not waste a flip there maybe
    In this post, Celery doesn't say storn is his "neighbour" he says storn is his "partner" (like a wolf partner)

    slip theory?

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    • Shadow_God_10
      Somewhere, but not here
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Mar 2006
      • 2226

      #3482
      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      In this post, Celery doesn't say storn is his "neighbour" he says storn is his "partner" (like a wolf partner)

      slip theory?
      A very good point to consider...

      Also we haven't heard much from T-Force, as much as everyone and their grandmother wants them dead here I'd like his thoughts on how we're progressing here

      Originally posted by Svaz
      more like Shad-hoe God am I right haha
      Originally posted by mellon_collie
      TIL women have breasts because of horniness
      Originally posted by bugkid666
      sunfan I fucked up
      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
      Xel claiming that I am incapable of making mistakes and using that logic to paint me as scum does things to my body that I thought only Lewdy's stash could do

      Originally posted by Funnygurl555
      your hentai collection is commendable. i am both in awe and afraid of you
      Originally posted by DaBackpack
      might quit having sex every day and focus more on shooting myself in the testicles with an elephant gun

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      • mellon_collie
        FFR Player
        • May 2017
        • 156

        #3483
        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

        Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
        A very good point to consider...

        Also we haven't heard much from T-Force, as much as everyone and their grandmother wants them dead here I'd like his thoughts on how we're progressing here
        Agreed, I would like to hear from T-Force as well

        at the moment I don't hate a T-Force lynch either

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        • MixMasterLar
          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2006
          • 5401

          #3484
          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
          I will agree with you that it's a safety net, but would you mind giving some prior examples of such a thing occurring? This is the first time this has ever even crossed my mind
          DanceFlashRevolution in what I think was the second Ace Attorney game comes to mind as an early example. I want to say Haku's done it at least once (but I get Haku's done everything at least once)

          The big example of a wolf throwing hard would be Zenith in the early years but that's a tad before my time.

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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5401

            #3485
            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            I think I'm liking Cel over Xiz after ISOing him and thinking it over some more
            How about a little Voting action on Cel, to see where he goes with pressure. My vote's on him atm


            Originally posted by mellon_collie
            Agreed, I would like to hear from T-Force as well

            at the moment I don't hate a T-Force lynch either
            I hope he doesn't think just because I've veen swinging hard against his detractors that it's suddenly ok go not play the game.

            But we shouldn't vote him this phase

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            • mcdaddio
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2021
              • 0

              #3486
              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

              This day feels kind of quiet. Until we get that long awaited log update from cel, Im going to wait to place down a vote. He has seemed very sincere this entire game and I dont want to vote for someone who I dont think is wolf again (sorry again ben, i hope you're doing well and hi bolthy)

              Originally posted by Xiz
              Hi Mcdaddio I haven’t talked to you all game what’s up
              Hey Xiz, I hope all of your job and other irl stuff is going good. Tangoing with this game while major things happen is rough for a lot of reasons

              Originally posted by mellon_collie
              also just wanna say I appreciate you putting the effort that you have into the game Xiz <3
              I absolutely agree with this sentiment

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5401

                #3487
                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                Originally posted by mcdaddio
                This day feels kind of quiet. Until we get that long awaited log update from cel, Im going to wait to place down a vote. He has seemed very sincere this entire game and I dont want to vote for someone who I dont think is wolf again
                There is plenty of things to comment on in thread that doesn't require Cel posting logs.

                -implications of the flip
                -my stated plan of only lynching between Xiz, Cel, Kappa and Raeko
                -xiz and my interactions
                -cel and my inteteractions
                -Kappa and my interactions
                -who you might have talked to in the night
                -any greater reads you have/how they've changed since night phase
                -thoughts on how game 2 is being handled
                -thoughts on DBP's alighment now that we still have 3 night kills
                -should Game 2 still flip Ben


                Waiting for Cel before even voting does not come off as pure intentions

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                • fatfuck42
                  FFR Player
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 7

                  #3488
                  Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                  ~~MAIN THREAD~~

                  TOWN:
                  haku - Pretty much lock town for me. Very very hard to imagine storn joining that wagon d0 if they're partners together.

                  choof/MML - Had very strong town vibes from choof, from tone to emotion to WIM to being adament about solving to sounding pretty genuinely upset over not getting any flips and the modkills, and MML has carried the torch very well. He's trying to lead town and get everybody on the same page, which I know cel took issue with since it could mean he's a wolf trying to limit the realm of possibilities, but considering I'm on the same page as him and believe it's the right move to make as well, I don't see any issues.

                  lewdy - Similar to choof, I don't think lewdy's faking his more emotional posts, from the excited ones to the frustrated ones and everything in between. I'll also throw in the classic meta read I have on him, where if he's active and prodding every which way then he's town. I haven't read the recent wolf game of his which people have been praising him for, but I've seen it brought up enough times in-thread where he's not playing the way he played that game to where I trust he's fine.

                  freezin - I've been mindmelding a lot with freezin this game, with the big ones being the haku rush being dirty and ben being a worthwhile lynch despite reading him town. He also seems committed to solving (both in thread and via OOTC), which I think wolf freezin doesn't really do? In the one game where he wolfed with sunfan and yoshl he was quieter and IIRC kind of put out his ideas without trying to rally town and convince people to believe them. Here he's fighting in the same way MML is.

                  TOWN LEAN:

                  kappa - I still really love their, "idc what you guys think, this is what I'm doing and that's that on that" attitude. They have a good balance too of committing to their reads and following through with them while also being flexible and open-minded and not tunnelling/phoning it in. Even though they have conviction in their beliefs, they still ping the thread and question people (eg asking people questions about storn in the OOTC chat to better inform their read) to try and make the best decisions they can. The only caveat is I don't know kappa as a person or a player so I'm not sure what they're like as a wolf and what they're capable of.

                  bugkid - Bug's kind of in the same boat as kappa for me. We've mindmelded throughout the game, basically to the same extent that I have with freezin, and they're committed to solving and pushing their ideas in an attempt to get others on board (eg messaging tforce to get him to vote storn over ben). However, to my knowledge they've yet to roll wolf in any other game, so I don't know what they're capable of. Based on my experiences with them in survivor and cybernaut, I think they'll make a really solid wolf when the time comes, so I want to approach them with an abundance of caution.

                  mcdaddio - If it were me in a vacuum, I'd put mcdaddio in the null category. Their style of posting fewer but lengthier messages reminds me of my earlier wolf games. However, the actual content in the posts is solid, their votes have been good, and I know we've agreed on quite a few things. Ultimately, though, it's the reads from others like bug and raeko, who I trust to read them better than I can, and also the lack of any kind of push against them thus far, that puts them in the town category.

                  NULL:
                  raeko - I think I always have a tough time reading raeko. Her wolf games and her town games feel very similar to me. Her tone, her activity levels, her style of solving, the conclusions she tends to make...all pretty indistinguishable from one alignment to the next. I think she'll be easier for me to figure out later in the game when there's fewer possibilities/actions to take and her motivations should be more obvious.

                  cel - Cel's reads have differed a fair bit than mine throughout this game. It's like we're not on the same page. However, I can also generally understand why he thinks what he thinks and how he arrived at those conclusions. I also really liked him trying to limit the amount of content people post and to come up with a consistent format for cross-thread talk since he values his time and so on...I think a wolf would more likely embrace that chaos and try to encourage white noise. The main reason he's null is because, and I really hate making this read, but I know what he's capable of in terms of wolfing and deception. Everything in this game is within his range. Right now I'm hoping he'll stop being an outlier in the votes so I can try to figure him out via wagonomics.

                  SCUM:
                  tforce - He was part of the haku rush, he was looking specifically for SKs, he may or may not have made a slip during his argument with dap, and, similar to my read on mcdaddio, enough people who know him better than I do are adament he's scum (bug, fg, and xiz come to mind).

                  xiz - He was part of the haku rush, and there's virtually zero pushback against his wagon aside from FG. I will say though that he's really been putting in the effort this phase, and I like where his head's at, and I sense his emotion and frustration and the like as being genuine...it's just that rush and that lack of pushback are too damning.

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                  • TWGma
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2017
                    • 3

                    #3489
                    Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                    Originally posted by the sun fan
                    Votecount:
                    storn (10)- bugkid, plop, Haku, ben, mcdaddio, charu, freezin, Force, shadow_god, choof
                    cedo- (1)- Celery
                    ben (8)- DBP, roundbox, Xiz, kappa, fg, raeko, xel, storn


                    Originally posted by TWGma
                    ...
                    I hate this. SO MUCH.
                    One of the biggest signs of a new wolf is wanting to appear active, and one of the biggest giveaways is when they go
                    reddit.com/r/IAmA -> New Post
                    "Hi I am here, AMA?"


                    Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                    I can agree to an extent... But idk... What Kappa said earlier has set off some alarm bells in my head, plus there's the mention of him basically doing a reddit AMA...


                    Y'all are making this so much harder than in needs to be. 123kappa3
                    Originally posted by Charu
                    Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                    Why are you fucking pockets again?
                    Originally posted by Celirra
                    i like tforce more than you

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                    • fatfuck42
                      FFR Player
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 7

                      #3490
                      Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                      Gotta go cook supper...will cook up some reads on the mirror thread when I'm done.

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                      • TWGma
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2017
                        • 3

                        #3491
                        Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                        Any sign of a player wanting to be asked questions on their thoughts to divert attention from the thread is a bigger red flag than the Chinese flag covering a soccer stadium.
                        Originally posted by Charu
                        Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                        Why are you fucking pockets again?
                        Originally posted by Celirra
                        i like tforce more than you

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                        • TWGma
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2017
                          • 3

                          #3492
                          Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                          Going back to Neo TWEWY.
                          To quote one of the new characters: "Deuces, dummies."
                          Originally posted by Charu
                          Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                          Why are you fucking pockets again?
                          Originally posted by Celirra
                          i like tforce more than you

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                          • 123kappa3
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 69

                            #3493
                            Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                            t force voting me, is kind of wierd if they are wolve. I know im reading into this hard. But If t force is a wolve they would know I am town, so when I flip in 2nd game they will get 100% voted, If t force is a wolve, they have to be banking that I am not going to get voted off.

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                            • 123kappa3
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 69

                              #3494
                              Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                              I think T force is setting up for later in the game. thats my take on them not saying much

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                              • 123kappa3
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 69

                                #3495
                                Re: TWG 200 Game Thread: Dichotomy

                                idk who I want to vote, I am kind of 2nd guessing myself a little bit.

                                Cellirra and xiz are my choices atm based on how I understand the game right now.

                                I thought celirras logs that they posted with storn looked genuine. Bug said that didnt matter but, to me it did. A part from that I dont like how they have voted at all, and dont think it is very helpful to town how they voted. They have also had some wierd takes on storn, maybe it was a blind spot or maybe they didnt care storn was not being very helpful.

                                xiz, has been busy i guess. so taking that into consideration, they have defiently talked and tried to play the game. xiz interaction with people this phase has been up and down.

                                On one hand, they seem to feel defeated but, on the other hand they are still fighting for a t force lynch.

                                what I really dont like is this wagonomics taken center stage with T force getting a pass. I understand the logic, but at this moment I think t force should be talked about. one ben was gone, I wanted to start looking at t force and haku. :/

                                It feels like the way I am playing the game isnt smart or maybe I am missing something.

                                anyway, I am leaning more towards celirra at this point, but ill vote later

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