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  • DossarLX ODI
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    • Mar 2008
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    #16
    Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

    Ok, so what does "I could hit even faster if I wanted to as well" mean? What speed does it work up to?

    Overlay setup has been used by several players to hit sections like Crowdpleaser's 64th trill and the zero framers in party4u v1.
    Last edited by DossarLX ODI; 05-29-2017, 06:45 AM.
    Originally posted by hi19hi19
    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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    • Rapta
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      #17
      Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
      Ok, so what does "I could hit even faster if I wanted to as well" mean? What speed does it work up to?

      Overlay setup has been used by several players to hit sections like Crowdpleaser's 64th trill and the zero framers in party4u v1.
      What is overlay setup?
      I don't know the exact speed but I know I my max speed with this technique is shanghai moon 1.8 rate
      Old Quotes
      Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
      Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
      Originally posted by Mourningfall
      [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
      Originally posted by Xiz
      Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
      Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
      Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
      Originally posted by Prawnskunk
      if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
      Originally posted by gold stinger
      do u even agrabah
      Originally posted by gold stinger
      Today at 12:53 AM
      I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
      Originally posted by Psychotik
      When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
      Originally posted by Haku
      have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




      Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
      OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
      Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
      We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
      Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
      You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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      • DossarLX ODI
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        #18
        Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

        Ok so that is almost 250 BPM 16ths. Basically, overlay setup is when you have a keyboard that is sensitive enough to allow for two fingers to hit on the same key without having to entirely lift up your finger.

        When OWA played Crowdpleaser for example, he did a one-hand trill with two fingers on his right key and did the same for the left key. This means it's basically two 16th trills at 240 BPM on each hand, but only using two keys.

        Similarly, it could be done for a roll except using four fingers on each hand, with two fingers for one button. It makes sense the max would be around 250 if it's utilizing one hand trilling like that.
        Originally posted by hi19hi19
        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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        • Rapta
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          #19
          Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

          Overlay setup is correct
          Old Quotes
          Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
          Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
          Originally posted by Mourningfall
          [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
          Originally posted by Xiz
          Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
          Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
          Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
          Originally posted by Prawnskunk
          if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
          Originally posted by gold stinger
          do u even agrabah
          Originally posted by gold stinger
          Today at 12:53 AM
          I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
          Originally posted by Psychotik
          When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
          Originally posted by Haku
          have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




          Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
          OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
          Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
          We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
          Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
          You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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          • Rapta
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            #20
            Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

            Is there currently a tutorial on how to do overlay setup?
            Old Quotes
            Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
            Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
            Originally posted by Mourningfall
            [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
            Originally posted by Xiz
            Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
            Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
            Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
            Originally posted by Prawnskunk
            if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
            Originally posted by gold stinger
            do u even agrabah
            Originally posted by gold stinger
            Today at 12:53 AM
            I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
            Originally posted by Psychotik
            When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
            Originally posted by Haku
            have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




            Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
            OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
            Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
            We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
            Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
            You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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            • DossarLX ODI
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              #21
              Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

              Originally posted by Rapta
              Is there currently a tutorial on how to do overlay setup?
              Not that I know of. Some players here have used it before.
              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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              • Shadow_God_10
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                • Mar 2006
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                #22
                Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                Ok so that is almost 250 BPM 16ths. Basically, overlay setup is when you have a keyboard that is sensitive enough to allow for two fingers to hit on the same key without having to entirely lift up your finger.

                I'm a visual guy so looking at my keyboard (I use qwop) I would use all 4 fingers on qwop from pinky to index on qw on my left hand and index to pinky on op on my right? Is that how that works?

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                • DossarLX ODI
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                  #23
                  Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                  Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                  I'm a visual guy so looking at my keyboard (I use qwop) I would use all 4 fingers on qwop from pinky to index on qw on my left hand and index to pinky on op on my right? Is that how that works?
                  For a roll on all four arrows, you'd need to use 8 fingers total.

                  In your case, you could do the following.

                  Left Hand
                  - Pinky and ring fingers for q
                  - Middle and index fingers for w

                  Right Hand
                  - Index and middle fingers for o
                  - Ring and pinky fingers for p

                  Because of how cramped and uncomfortable that setup is, it makes sense that the hits are mostly like quads.
                  Originally posted by hi19hi19
                  oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                  • Rapta
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                    #24
                    Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                    Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                    For a roll on all four arrows, you'd need to use 8 fingers total.

                    In your case, you could do the following.

                    Left Hand
                    - Pinky and ring fingers for q
                    - Middle and index fingers for w

                    Right Hand
                    - Index and middle fingers for o
                    - Ring and pinky fingers for p

                    Because of how cramped and uncomfortable that setup is, it makes sense that the hits are mostly like quads.
                    Once you get used to it you won't have much trouble transitioning during songs, and it becomes more comfortable to use.
                    Last edited by Rapta; 05-29-2017, 08:35 AM.
                    Old Quotes
                    Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
                    Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
                    Originally posted by Mourningfall
                    [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
                    Originally posted by Xiz
                    Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
                    Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                    Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
                    Originally posted by Prawnskunk
                    if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
                    Originally posted by gold stinger
                    do u even agrabah
                    Originally posted by gold stinger
                    Today at 12:53 AM
                    I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
                    Originally posted by Psychotik
                    When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
                    Originally posted by Haku
                    have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




                    Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
                    OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
                    Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
                    We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
                    Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
                    You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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                    • Rapta
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                      #25
                      Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                      I will make a tutorial video on how to do it probably tomorrow.
                      Last edited by Rapta; 05-29-2017, 08:37 AM.
                      Old Quotes
                      Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
                      Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
                      Originally posted by Mourningfall
                      [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
                      Originally posted by Xiz
                      Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
                      Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                      Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
                      Originally posted by Prawnskunk
                      if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
                      Originally posted by gold stinger
                      do u even agrabah
                      Originally posted by gold stinger
                      Today at 12:53 AM
                      I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
                      Originally posted by Psychotik
                      When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
                      Originally posted by Haku
                      have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




                      Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
                      OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
                      Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
                      We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
                      Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
                      You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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                      • MinaciousGrace
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                        • Dec 2007
                        • 4278

                        #26
                        Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                        tbh i prefer layover setup

                        that's where you huddle in a corner of a dubai airport for 9 hours between each note

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                        • rushyrulz
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #27
                          Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                          Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                          Not that I know of. Some players here have used it before.
                          I used it to AAA PWND


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                          • Untimely Friction
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                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1267

                            #28
                            Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                            I'd argue that I don't think that's quiiiite legit, pretty sure that was described as 1 finger 1 button, 2 fingers 1 button while adhering to not double setup, and while requiring reasonably more skill, is still kinda crapbaskets, not everyone will have a keyboard that even allows it making this legit strat an actual expense, I don't think it should be outlawed to specify, but I'm not impressed at cheese, and there are a lot of other signs I've seen that rapta might DS, I'd really like a hands video of this strat, I don't see it as totally fesible to simulate cohesive quads at that speed with 8 fingers, it doesn't make sense to me, especially given the transition and near AAA of the pre vibra roll wall, but given you shoulda AAA'd the pre-vibra roll I can understand that you might have been setting up during that roll, it still seems pretty lame tho.

                            Edit: the other reason I feel this, but that might have been resolved, is that you're recently returning and I don't believe you have the stam for this yet, at least I'd seen you drop out of some files for stam reasons, but you doooo play a lot.

                            Really though posting this kind of thread, it's pretty reasonable to be asked to show a hand video heh
                            Last edited by Untimely Friction; 05-29-2017, 05:16 PM.

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                            • V-Ormix
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #29
                              Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                              oh i was hoping you found a way to twitch jack with rist and compound motions better than me... I am disappointed :v

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                              • Rapta
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                                #30
                                Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating

                                This is pretty bad for a tutorial but I can't do the tutorial I wanted because my good camera is being annoying.
                                Once I fix my camera I will do a professional tutorial

                                Old Quotes
                                Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
                                Note the left hand pinky. It stretches out into attack mode to make etienne's hand appear larger, an intimidation technique for the arrows.
                                Originally posted by Mourningfall
                                [3:51 PM] Mourningfall: i spent the second half of that song getting face fucked by a fly
                                Originally posted by Xiz
                                Hi I see rapta come play TWG next game
                                Originally posted by xXOpkillerXx
                                Rapta thinks alot about memes and fonts. I'd be inclined to think he's town because wolves wouldn't have time to meme would they ?
                                Originally posted by Prawnskunk
                                if we keep releasing engines that work on 1/4 of people's computers, we'll get there
                                Originally posted by gold stinger
                                do u even agrabah
                                Originally posted by gold stinger
                                Today at 12:53 AM
                                I have no fucking idea how you were able to identify that specific line from meme show so you are basically an elder god of memes
                                Originally posted by Psychotik
                                When I think Mother’s Day, I think Venetian Snares.
                                Originally posted by Haku
                                have you heard someone mention eating pancakes to negate friday 13th?




                                Originally posted by Prawnskunk at 10:53:56pm on 10/26/11
                                OMFG VC! I want your programming fingers in or around my mouth OnO
                                Originally posted by Storn at 3:03 PM
                                We have so many batches open. Its like a backlog clearance sale. ALL FILES MUST GO!!
                                Originally posted by ToonE156 at 11:07 PM
                                You've never felt intimacy until you've practiced Jiu Jitsu ground techniques with the only girl in class

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