How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gaming?

[Trumpet63]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

Rhythm games just aren't that interesting to watch, especially without in-depth knowledge of them. They require our full attention to play them, so there's not a lot of commentary we can do. There's nothing universal to empathize with about an ability to press buttons quickly, and watching people practice can be like watching people lift weights to music, i.e. not very interesting.

I can't get people to watch more than one or two songs, but if I tell them about the difficulty system they sometimes ask questions. If I'm lucky, I can start to get more in depth and explain how accuracy is emphasized far more than just hitting the notes. Most often I get people that ask how I can possibly hit all the notes when they can't even see them, and I explain how cool it is that you start to just see the patterns and the motions become automatic. Sometimes they ask how many times I've played the song I show them, typically a lot, but then I point out that sight reading is its own thing, and that the music plays a big role in allowing you to predict what comes next.

[Dinglesberry]

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I don't really agree, I think rhythm games leave alot of room for chat interaction, especially between songs (lets say a live stream)...

The concept of improving and progression is pretty universal and most people can understand it, tbh

[Staiain]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

I say I press buttons fast to arrows on the screen

[Charu]

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"Wanna hear some unique buzz-y music?"

[Charu]

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"I'll show you the true meaning of JAPAN STYLE BREAKCORE"

[YoshL]

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"I'll show you the true meaning of JAPAN STYLE BREAKCORE"

"Yo i just got a file into this game lemme show you it"

[Shadowcliff]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

TL;DR HAHAHAHA

I actively try to hide it

Rofl I try to do this but my roommates became curious about the furious tapping coming from my room.

If you want to be entertaining, you have to explain how the game works as you play.

The other obvious suggestion is to get good so that you can keep your combo.

Also finally you have to not act & sound like a neckbearded ****** when you play. Even if you spend 9 hours a day every day playing arrow games and are super proud of how high the skillcap is in this game, try to curb your desire to talk about that and instead let people as you questions about the music and the community and stuff. That makes it more accessible.

These are all great suggestions.

If only because as a spectator, SM/Osumania/FFR/MusicGameHere is just not interesting to watch as it is to perform.

This seems to be the bottomline.

I usually get better responses out of people if I emphasize how hard something is.

In my experience this has worked to gain some vested interest, until I kill it by setting the bar too high the first time I show them a song. It goes from "Oh, I could get into this" to "This rabbit hole goes too deep"

ie:

"It's a hole that you probably can't get out of"

Serenade, even with the nullifidian cockblast at the end it's a lovely progressive file.

I broke combo at the end but the nps slide makes for a good demonstration!

Wrist-up technique can be advantageous in certain situations but from a medical perspective you should try to avoid doing it too much.

In which situations would it be useful to have wrists up?

Watching people practice can be like watching people lift weights to music, i.e. not very interesting.

Most often I get people that ask how I can possibly hit all the notes when they can't even see them, and I explain how cool it is that you start to just see the patterns and the motions become automatic.

I really like your description of this game. A couple of my roommates have picked up on what it takes to train your skill in this game and are most impressed by the muscle memory. I was talking to another friend who likes rhythm games (He plays Hatsune Miku games on psvita) who also has known for a long time that I play FFR. I showed him a couple of tournament D3 songs and was describing some different patterns and he says, "Ian, what you see as a distinct pattern there just looks like another cluster of arrows to me." *shrug*

I don't really agree, I think rhythm games leave alot of room for chat interaction, especially between songs (lets say a live stream)...

The concept of improving and progression is pretty universal and most people can understand it, tbh

Yeah! When I started playing again last year, I would get drunk and stream for my friends back in my old home state. They stopped in to just chat and hang out while I trained. I explained things if they asked, but most of the time we just went on with our regular banter and sometimes they gave me shit for not getting everything perfect. Which was totally welcomed and lots of fun. I think I've had maximum 4 friends at once watching me stream.

"Yo i just got a file into this game lemme show you it"

That's the spirit!!! I have a small few unfinished stepfiles.. Maybe I should bring them out of the cave and start getting feedback.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

Its like masturbating while listening to music so you try to stroke it to the beat

[Shadowcliff]

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Its like masturbating while listening to music so you try to stroke it to the beat

*masturbating to classical music*

[rushyrulz]

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In which situations would it be useful to have wrists up?

Advantageous for very jacky songs like AIM Anthem

[Shadowcliff]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

I feel like the arcade category has some of the most ear-accessible songs. Also there might be success in showing two different difficulties of a "good" song. For example, show Arsonist on standard, and then on heavy. Might make it easier to follow--perhaps demonstrating layering if they're paying attention, and gives them a better idea of the fact that stepping a song is very deliberate and hardly random. Maybe.

edit: 12 Bar Bloops could even be effective, or other songs by Blitz Lunar. I certainly can't combo it, but I could plug it in to the sound system in my house and emphasize listening to the song as opposed to watching me play. While they enjoy the music they might hear me tapping along.

[Walrusizer]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

wrist up is also useful because it allows you to use muscles other than just your wrist/fingers to hit the notes, however its moderately advanced to actually take advantage of that

[rushyrulz]

Re: How do you explain ffr/sm to friends who literally never think about rhythm gamin

Meh, I started using wrist up for jacks in like D3, it's not as advanced of a technique as you make it sound walrus man.

[lofty rhino]

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"I am confused with my life"