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  • choof
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2013
    • 8563

    #46
    Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

    more like memesemble

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #47
      Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

      Apocalyptica has covered Pantera

      The circle of memes is complete


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      • Callipygian
        Senior FFR citizen
        • Jun 2007
        • 1537

        #48
        Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

        Originally posted by Ohaider
        i never said complex music is totally absent during the romantic era lmfao

        during the romantic era overall big epic ensemble music was normally defined by long drawn out emotional lengthiness as opposed to solo/chamber music

        op is talking about apocalyptica shit, sounds like big epic ensemble to me
        Please just stop posting. The 'Romantic' orchestral music video you posted features romantic, not Romantic, music (with the single exception of Schubert, who is a but of a middle figure bridging the Classical and early Romantic era anyway). You also definitely did imply in previous posts that the complex, virtuoso Romantic music was relegated to (piano) solo and that the orchestral music of the time was not interesting to step. If you had meant to tell us that there is both drawn-out bad-to-step and virtuoso, complex, good-to-step Romantic music, then why did you post twice with the message that step artists shouldn't bother with music of that period?

        Also, again, I get the feeling you know absolutely nothing at all about classical music. Although virtuoso passages were more often found in solo music, a big part of the orchestral repertoire has been written for soloist plus orchestra and contains plenty to work with for making good stepfiles. Purely symphonic music, especially in the late Romantic period, is often devilishly complex and contains both long drawn-out andantes and fast-paced scherzi and finales. There is something called cutting, which may be used by step artists to avoid having to step that 10 minute andante along with the scherzo, you know.
        Sick nature

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        • Fission
          no
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2004
          • 1850

          #49
          Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

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          • gold stinger
            Signature Extraordinare~~
            Event Staff
            Game Manager
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Jan 2007
            • 6428

            #50
            Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

            hi fission

            also Xiz's music is pretty hot, would not mind dat jazz in FFR at all
            Last edited by gold stinger; 11-21-2014, 05:07 AM.
            Originally posted by YoshL
            butts.


            - Tosh 2014






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            • GammaBlaster
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2011
              • 1317

              #51
              Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

              they're not songs they're pieces

              /runs
              https://soundcloud.com/aquellex/crystal-chamber-combustion

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              • hi19hi19
                lol happy
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2005
                • 12194

                #52
                Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                Originally posted by GammaBlaster
                they're not songs they're pieces

                /runs
                We're on a site that still insists calling a piece, "Molto Vivace by Liszt" is enough to identify it.

                I think you'll be fine, no need to run.


                p.s. it's Transcendental Étude No. 2, and if there's any popular name it should be known by, it's Fusées, a name given to it Liszt's editor Ferruccio Busoni.
                Liszt has multiple études with the tempo marking Molto Vivace, while the Transcendental one is the most well known, the current title does nothing to differentiate it from, for example, the Douze Grandes Études version which is also Molto Vivace.
                Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-21-2014, 12:19 PM.


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                • _Zenith_
                  Accuracy Player
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4629

                  #53
                  Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                  Originally posted by Ohaider
                  op is talking about apocalyptica shit, sounds like big epic ensemble to me
                  I was just using Apocalyptica as an example for these types of genres to start coming into FFR. What I really meant by that, is we need more strings and piano because it creates more diversity in not only the music available on FFR, but also the charts of said songs.

                  It's always been a picture in my head to see what an orchestrated song or even more classical pieces being brought up, in the sense that there would be willing stepartists to do such a task. Not only is this needed, but it will fill the void FFR has of these types of music, as well as hard enough files for higher divisions.





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                  • V-Ormix
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4677

                    #54
                    Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                    Last edited by V-Ormix; 11-21-2014, 12:50 PM.

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                    • Callipygian
                      Senior FFR citizen
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1537

                      #55
                      Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      p.s. it's Transcendental Étude No. 2, and if there's any popular name it should be known by, it's Fusées, a name given to it Liszt's editor Ferruccio Busoni.
                      Liszt has multiple études with the tempo marking Molto Vivace, while the Transcendental one is the most well known, the current title does nothing to differentiate it from, for example, the Douze Grandes Études version which is also Molto Vivace.
                      Indeed. The same goes for pretty much all of the popular nicknames for Chopin's pieces, such as 'Minute Waltz' or 'Raindrop Prelude', which were either added by the publisher or popularized by a prominent musician (Von Bülow in the case of the Chopin preludes).
                      Sick nature

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                      • ShadowDueler97
                        scarhand pls
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 547

                        #56
                        Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                        I've never gotten serious about file making before, so I've never completed a song. I would like to seriously try to finish a song though. I like AJ's song and the one Guilhermeziat posted too. So if I can give a try at one of those I might finally finish a file for once.
                        Last edited by ShadowDueler97; 11-21-2014, 03:00 PM.


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                        • Ohaider
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2893

                          #57
                          Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                          Originally posted by Callipygian
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                          Blowing this so fucking out of proportion lmao calm down. Most complex music during romantic era was solo work. Most easy listening rhythmically basic shit during romantic era was large ensemble, especially compared to the preceding era. All I'm saying

                          if op said he was listening to popular contemporary solo pianists and wanting more of that, different story

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                          • s1rnight
                            ( ŻuŻ)-b
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 392

                            #58
                            Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                            dont forget chamber work br0


                            the amount of classical chamber work that could be stepped is insane haha

                            edit bonus round for av:
                            (skip to 8:49, i dunno how to youtube tag lol)
                            Last edited by s1rnight; 11-21-2014, 05:11 PM.

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                            • Xiz
                              TWG Chaos
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3399

                              #59
                              Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                              Just to give peeps a heads up on where I'm at right now...

                              Been trying to cut a deal with their legal department, since royalties are op. Trying to get it for free, but it's not looking good. Got a conference call with them on Tuesday so wish me luck lol.

                              (Realistically they want compensation or its a no go, but who knows they still wanna talk so idk)

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                              • Wayward Vagabond
                                Confirmed Heartbreaker
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 5866

                                #60
                                Re: FFR needs more classical/orchestrated songs

                                Originally posted by _Zenith_
                                I was just using Apocalyptica as an example for these types of genres to start coming into FFR. What I really meant by that, is we need more strings and piano because it creates more diversity in not only the music available on FFR, but also the charts of said songs.

                                It's always been a picture in my head to see what an orchestrated song or even more classical pieces being brought up, in the sense that there would be willing stepartists to do such a task. Not only is this needed, but it will fill the void FFR has of these types of music, as well as hard enough files for higher divisions.
                                classical definitely wont fill the void for harder files haha. you'll have some hard songs here and there but definitely not as many as you think.

                                the hardest part of getting files for classical in game is the stepartist willingness to actually go through the trouble of syncing and charting(maybe even finding a good midi and making it into a decent sounding mp3 like sleeplessdragon did with la campanella)

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