On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

[Plan_Bsk81127]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

For the record, swapping v1 in public ranks with the v2 in tokens is something I've advocated for quite a while, as well as v1 and v2 of Revo.

Pretty much fine with this being the outcome of the situation. Just name the current CP/Revo -> CP[Classic]/Revo[Classic] or something along those lines, just because I dont think V2 would fit them well after the switch. Not likely to happen, but if they were to be stuck in token ranks do it this way.

Im pretty much for it being stuck in tokens simply because I really dont like people overlaying CP, while it is technically not cheating, I still see it as cheating as you are using four fingers for two arrows repeating back and forth. Its a huge slap to the face to those who actually play the trill as is and vibrate through it, using overlay pmuch makes it play as a roll iirc if thats how it works, which is pretty cheap and BS FC/AAA. I really dont care if it stays or go, it will just always be annoying in my mind when I see people hyped about a good scored obtained with overlay, but that mindset will be there whether its public or in the token ranks haha.

[SK8R43]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Whimper wall then. It was released as a public song just like CP

Scores didnt record on it, and it was only a one day thing,

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Scores didnt record on it, and it was only a one day thing,

Scores did record and they were in the ranks for weeks, and some people even got VRofl off it.

My point though is that the same arguments you are making can be applied to a file like whimper wall.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Scores did record and they were in the ranks for weeks, and some people even got VRofl off it.

My point though is that the same arguments you are making can be applied to a file like whimper wall.

^ Said this a few pages ago.

You guys are defending a file that is retarded on every point; it's bad technically (this, if you disagree, I'm out of here), it's bad in terms of consistency (better change the file to only the wall...), it's bad in terms of lvlranks representation, and kmay you tell me I'm wrong for saying the file is bad and telling me to learn to argue. Are you serious. If you read my arguments, you would see that I explicitely mentioned that I'm not against the vibrating itself, I'm against the fact that you're defending a retardedly bad file. Put that trill somewhere where it makes sense, in a chart where the difficulty doesnt jump from 1 to 100 for 2 seconds for example, and I won't complain.

[ilikexd]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Yeah my argument is more focused on the impossibility of the trill, but the difficulty spike argument is also reasonable. I think it's the worst one in any chart.

[NeonSM]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Okay, lets be serious, the trill IS hard. The file is complete garbage. And even if you vibrate it legitimately, as Dossar shows in his iso video, you wont get the FC half the time due to FFR game play problems. I've passed shit like OME and I've only legitimately fced the stupid trill like 5 times. There is no possible way that 199 people legitimately fced the file. I can't find one reason, other than the fact that it is an old file [which frankly, is a crappy reason] that this should be included in public level ranks.

[Pseudo Enigma]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

46-35-5
pretty sure majority rules.

[Dynam0]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Whether or not CP is a technically accurate file makes no difference, it shouldn't be moved for this reason. It shouldn't even be a factor for it being moved imo.

Criteria for token files, especially in recent years, are based on if the file is a v2, parody/novelty file, or out of the ordinary for example; after all, these are unlockables. Crowdpleaser is anomalous in the public ranks due to the fact that it involves techniques that are completely specific to that file in order to manipulate it. For this reason alone, it should be moved to token ranks. Likewise, I can guarantee you that subsequent charts that demand vibration similar to CP will never be added to public ranks for the above reasons.

Unfortunately even when a better method for scoring is implemented, the overlay issue will persist on the upper end of the leaderboard so although the problem won't be as pronounced, it will still be an anomaly in the ranks much like vRofl, p4u v1, or TWWW.

Majority wants it moved and rightly so, so let's get it over with.

[___________]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Bump, move this file already...

[igotrhythm]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

I have no problem with CP remaining in the public ranks. So what if it's unique? So what if it's a joke? It's a file like any other, there's no gimmicks involved in the level itself (no video background, no moving targets, no mod scripts), and we have a CPv2 in the skill token ranks already, requiring merely a pass of v1 to unlock. It's just straightforward vibrajacking in that one part.

[ilikexd]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

It's just straightforward vibrajacking in that one part.

non-straightforward double-setup trilling*

[AlexDest]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

lol

[VisD]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

Not the first time this topic has come up, every time the consensus is the same, but it's never done

mm

[Untimely Friction]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

y'all d7 scrubs just gotta go faster!

[gold stinger]

Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks

This debate has been going on since 2011 lol

also ~50 FCs are legitimate FCs, the other FCs are people holding keys to FC or using double inputs.

Like me, I held the keys to FC it.