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  • ddrxero64
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2008
    • 790

    #76
    Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

    Originally posted by cedolad
    Gonna have to disagree with the triplets one. Only because the rhythm for a triplet is completely different rhythm than the one posted. The rhythm you put is

    1e&, 2e&. (if you know music)

    Triplets are 3 notes stretched over a beat (or 2 depending on note lengths etc.) in 3's.

    So I think the correct name would be Triple.
    I would agree, but reading music and labeling stepmania patterns are two different things in my opinion. You don't call alternating notes in music trills, and you don't call a continuous roll of three notes arpeggio. I think triplets are fine, as they are a more notable pattern in stepmania, versus 12ths.

    Edit: I looked up arpeggio in wikipedia to make sure I was using the correct term, and I found this bit at the end. It's pretty interesting. Kommisar?
    In early video game music, arpeggios were often the only way to play a chord since sound hardware usually had a very limited number of oscillators, or voices. Instead of tying them all up to play one chord, one channel could be used to play an arpeggio, leaving the rest for drums, bass, or sound effects. Examples include the music of games and demos on Commodore 64's SID chip which only had three oscillators, see also Chiptune.

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    • cedolad
      moonchild~
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2007
      • 6879

      #77
      Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

      Originally posted by ddrxero64
      I would agree, but reading music and labeling stepmania patterns are two different things in my opinion. You don't call alternating notes in music trills, and you don't call a continuous roll of three notes arpeggio. I think triplets are fine, as they are a more notable pattern in stepmania, versus 12ths.

      Edit: I looked up arpeggio in wikipedia to make sure I was using the correct term, and I found this bit at the end. It's pretty interesting. Kommisar?
      Actually in most music alternating notes is a trill

      But I see your point now.

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      • rushyrulz
        Digital Dancing!
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2006
        • 12985

        #78
        Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

        While these terms might not be musically correct, they are the common names of the patterns when it comes to FFR/SM terminology.

        @Poptart: I can't rerecord with combo and masking off because my engine doesn't have that option.

        @cedo: Chains are the first pattern.

        @Vampeel: Screencutting.
        Last edited by rushyrulz; 02-9-2011, 09:40 PM.


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        • qqwref
          stepmania archaeologist
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Aug 2005
          • 4092

          #79
          Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

          It makes more sense in FFR for "triplet" to mean a xxx.xxx.xxx. 16th pattern, compared to a solid 12th pattern. because that latter one would just be described as "12th notes" or "12ths" and so we don't need another name for it.

          I think "jumpglut" is a great name for a group of jumps which intersect (i.e. form jacks) at some points. So this would describe certain hard parts in Across Rooftops, Black Key Etude, Death Piano, and Piano Etude (Gymnastics).

          I suggest adding "grace note" (any better names?) for a note with a differently colored note very close to it, such as a 4th with a 48th immediately after. It's similar to a gallop, but so fast that you wouldn't want to hit the notes separately.
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          • bmah
            shots FIRED
            Profile Moderator
            FFR Simfile Author
            Global Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 8448

            #80
            Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

            Yeah, I'd think grace note is a good descriptor, as it is for music in general.

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            • LJRoX
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 2762

              #81
              Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

              Although grace notes can be used as a trill see "Impromptu op. 142 no.8 by Franz Schubert." I'm playing that piece on the piano and it doesn't say tr directly below the grace note on the music itself, but below the beginning of the measure.
              Arpeggios are basically chords that are broken down. Like C minor has a C Eflat and a G
              you can play G C E flat C Eflat G in a broken form and call it an arpeggio.

              However most trills I play are really fast and usually the trills I play are 5 notes long (eighth with 4 sixteenths slurred together). Also trills can be composed of 3 different notes, not always the regular two
              like C D C D C D C B C, depending on what key you play on first.


              Edit: the thing is called a turn or an ornament.. I wasn't too sure about the name.
              Last edited by LJRoX; 02-10-2011, 01:58 AM.

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              • rushyrulz
                Digital Dancing!
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 12985

                #82
                Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                Added note color reference and grace note gif to the OP. (derp how did I forget about grace notes)


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                • qqwref
                  stepmania archaeologist
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 4092

                  #83
                  Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                  Nice updates. A few little fixes:
                  1) 12th, 24th, and 48th notes give rhythms of 12, 24, and 48 beats per measure, but you have 10, 20, and 40 listed.
                  2) Instead of doing the 1.e.&.a.2. etc thing, which would be really confusing to someone who wasn't used to it, maybe it would be better if you gave a picture of the rhythm. So like for 32nds you could give 8 arrows at 32nd intervals: red, orange, yellow, orange, blue, orange, yellow, orange.
                  3) I don't think a .dwi conversion error can turn a 4th note into a 192nd note, although I have heard of a converter that switched 64ths and 192nds.
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                  • rushyrulz
                    Digital Dancing!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 12985

                    #84
                    Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                    Originally posted by qqwref
                    3) I don't think a .dwi conversion error can turn a 4th note into a 192nd note, although I have heard of a converter that switched 64ths and 192nds.
                    That's what happened to 11ELEVEN

                    Lol derp, I'm so smart I couldn't even relate 12th note to 12 beats.


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                    • qqwref
                      stepmania archaeologist
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 4092

                      #85
                      Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                      I don't think it did happen to 11ELEVEN. I have the SM file and there are the same number of 192nds as in FFR.
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                      • LJRoX
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2762

                        #86
                        Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                        But I think he meant that those 192nds, as you said in the other thread, shouldn't be 192nds thanks to an error.

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                        • rushyrulz
                          Digital Dancing!
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 12985

                          #87
                          Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                          I've seen entire files turn white before, they're definitely the result of some type of conversion error.

                          What you said in the AAA tips thread:

                          Originally posted by qqwref
                          Here's the white stuff in 11eleven:



                          This is the real rhythm (I checked the SM file), so try to hit it like this and you should be AAAing easy.


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                          • qqwref
                            stepmania archaeologist
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 4092

                            #88
                            Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                            Originally posted by LJRoX
                            But I think he meant that those 192nds, as you said in the other thread, shouldn't be 192nds thanks to an error.
                            I must have explained badly. The rhythm is 48th gallops, but the stepauthor (0) put them all a 192nd off for effect.
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                            • Skelogon
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 35

                              #89
                              Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                              just did an omniflag on One More Night today, how embarrasing, had to miss on one of those trill notes which freaked me out and caused me to do an average, a good, and a boo. mistakes come in bundles.
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                              • G.S.M
                                is watching
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 1072

                                #90
                                Re: The Official FFR Picture Dictionary

                                apparently there was an older thread of this that someone bumped and I didn't even realize it.

                                gg
                                "Someone once said, 'Don't try to be a great man, just be a man, and let history make its own judgments'."

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