Farenheit 911

[xMrHx]

okay, all this stuff about anti-michaelmorreism is new to me. never heard of MMHA, or that quote you gave.

what i DO know is that his first movie, Roger and Me, was funded by him holding bingo tournaments in his living room. he went lookin for the guy that ruined HIS hometown by taking away all the jobs just so GM motors could get a few more million dollars by cheating mexican workers and paying them crap, much like Nike does with kids in Indonesia (he did a movie about that one, too, called The Big One).

the whole town went to (#$%, and roger gave himself a few million dollars raise.

guido - you agree with what the people at enron did? stealing money so they can buy things so they can look better.

They bought cars, some of which they never drove, art that they never looked at, multiple houses, and got them all remodeled!

-Lewis Black

too much money. old white people having all the money is how the economy's been doing it's thing. greedy mother fuckers like those at GM/nike/enron/all those others, are the reason that the gap between rich and poor is getting smaller. smaller gap = less "middle class", because there's no middle. there's either poor, or rich. trickle-down economics DO NOT WORK, and as long as old white guys control the country, it'll never change for the better.

[Jun. 16th, 2004|07:57 pm]



"Yes, I fought against everything, but more and more I worry that I was never for anything. Oh I can criticize and complain and judge everything, but what does that get me? Griping isn’t the same as creating something. Rebellling isn’t the same as rebuilding. Ridiculing isn’t replacing…

We’ve taken the world apart, but we have no idea what to do with the pieces…

My generation, all of our making fun of things isn’t making the world any better. We’ve spent so much time judging what other people created that we’ve created very little of our own.

I used rebellion as a way to hide out. We used criticism as a fake participation. It only looks as if we’ve accomplished something.

I’ve never contributed anything worthwhile to the world."


Found this on http://moorewatch.com. It is from the book Choke by Chuck Palahniuk. That pretty much describes Moore exactly. What exactly is he going to do/ did to the guy who outsourced some work for GM to mexico? Give him the finger and call him a meanie? He needs to quit his bitching, and do something productive. He has nothing to replace what he plans to tear down. And he is making millions off of it.

[Specforces]

Liberal bullshit. I might see it because I've been looking for a good piece of fiction to watch.

Specforces

[Jam930]

Of course, he avoided talking to Ray Bradbury, from whom he stole the title of his movie without consulting him. That's Moore for you...

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Farenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury is a "facist" government that spoon feeds its people all the information they need to know to make then controllable. Books are burnt to prevent peope from thinking for themselves and finding out the truth about things.

Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 is about a "democractic" government that spoon feeds its people all the information regarding one of the most tragic events in American history to make them controllable (or War hungry). Bush used 9-11 as an excuse to attack Iraq when now there is absolutely no evidence that says that Iraq was involved with Al-Qaeda. Whether you believe that or not, that is what F-911 is about.

For anyone who had read the novel Farenheit 451 and comprehended it, would clearly see the resemblence. Moore did not steal the title, for it is different. And if Ray Bradbury objected to the movie title, wouldnt he have sued and/or raised a fuss about it? Wouldnt his publishing company have pressed charges? Well, they havent yet.

Also, where is your proof that he didnt consult him?

I have read Fahrenheit 451. Good book.

This Fahrenheit 911 is total crap and is just degrading the original book.

Democrats just feel like they need to make some noise or else they will be forgotten.

Resemblence between the government now and the one in Fahrenheit 451? hahaha.
The government in 451 was mainly about making life easy for the citizens and controlling the media.

You wouldn't even know about the war in Iraq if there was much of a resemblence between the government now and the one in 451.

This movie is made by some idiots that believe it will automatically appeal to 50% of the american population just by being liberal and another 25% of the republican party through curiosity of what the liberals are doing. It's an ingenius plan taking advantage of the current political situation to make tons of money.

It's sick =/.

[talisman]

It's entertainment. Chill out people.

And what's with all these conservatives on the internet? I've seriously never met a forum population with this many conservatives. Times must be a-changin'.

[Jam930]

Chill out people.

Times must be a-changin'.

Those 2 lines suggest you are conservative... but at the same time i refuse to accept that as fact without your confirmation.

Conservatives rock. =D

I wish we cared more about the environment though.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

The earth likes being destroyed, right earthy?

[Jam930]

A small island off Madagascar.

[Moogy]

RELEVANCE IS UNNECESSARY

LD EDIT: Resize that damn pic

[GuidoHunter]

@talisman: You're completely right in that he's got every right to make a documentary saying whatever he wants, whether or not it's truthful. It just upsets me that, because he's a big name person, he can reach a lot of people, many of whom actually take him seriously and think he is reporting the bona fide truth that "others are trying to hide/cover up".

@Neo: I agree with many of the things Roger Moore did to come into his money. I don't agree with what the Enron guys did (though I'm not too schooled as to what exactly they did), but that's irrelevant. Heh, the "old white guys" argument? It never holds water.

@Jam: I love the environment, but I don't think it's in very much danger from humans, and don't support excessive government legislation to "save" it.

Oh, and I just want to get this off my chest: Sean Hannity is an embarassment to conservatives everywhere with his crappy talk show hosting (on his radio show; I don't watch his TV show). His ideas are good, but damn, does he suck at debating on his show.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Jam930]

That image is too damn big Moogy.

Btw, has anyone ever been banned from FFR for repeatedly being an idiot, and breaking forum rules?

[Moogy]

Only Yoshimaro.

BTW, that's the point of the image.

[jewpinthethird]

Moogy is getting on my nerves.

List of people who are on my Nerves:

Moogy
Frankie Muinez

[talisman]

Heh. I lead a conservative lifestyle (as in I don't drink/smoke/do drugs) but I tend to be fairly open-minded (and therefore liberal?) about most issues.

What I hate is people that are either all one way or all the other and don't stop to give any consideration as to whether the other side might have a point.

IMO, people need to listen to each other more and not hide behind prefabricated ideological barriers.

I know for a fact I won't register Republican, but I'm not sure if I will be a Democrat or Independent.

[NeoDarkHeart]

michael moore brought these truths to the public. had he not made these documentaries, we wouldnt know about all these companies being the jackasses they are.

he went to the president of Nike and asked him to make a Nike shoe factory in flint, michigan, where roger shut down his GM factories.

dude argued that americans dont want to work by making shoes, so michael got all these workers who used to work for the factory for GM to stand outside the factory and say they'd do anything for a job, and making shoes wouldnt be so bad.

michael showed it to the president of Nike and dude just stood there goin "... nah, they wouldnt make shoes... not gonna do it..."

but he did donate like 10k dollars to some charity michael asked him to do... even though he couldve donated a million and it wouldnt have dented his pocket at all, he wouldnt go any higher than 10k.

so yeah. if you say michael doesnt do anything, think about if we never knew the big companies were doing all this assholeish stuff. nobody could go against them if they didnt know they were greedy bastards. if you were really pro-american and wanted the economy to get better, as most of you would, then you should be for what michael does, because he's against all those morons who would rather pay 14 year old mexican and indonesians like 14 cents an hour than give the jobs to americans and pay them a livable wage.

all this stuff i told you about up there was in "The Big One". it's called that, because when michael was being interviewed on a radio talk show, he suggested that america change its name to "The Big One", because if britain calls itself GREAT britain, we would naturally want our country to sound better.

[jewpinthethird]

Heh. I lead a conservative lifestyle (as in I don't drink/smoke/do drugs) but I tend to be fairly open-minded (and therefore liberal?) about most issues.

Michael Moore is a liberal, and by no means is he open minded. Not all liberals are open-minded, just as not all Conservatives are closed minded.

They are just too different parties with different beliefs about what is best for America.

Neither party is totally wrong, and neither party is totally right. The foundation of our government is "Checks and Balances".