Bus Rides With People [10 or 11]

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Wow that second burst is GROSS, but it's 1-frame intervals on each side so it can be jumptrilled - but that up 4th arrow kills that transition hard

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Wasnt it originally put in as an 11?

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It was always a 10, and you can jumptrill all the rolls. It's ties for the highest non changeable 10 in my eyes (Feldschlatt being the other, just due to how easy it is to pull a good the whole damn file and the jacks at the end). It's the hardest 10, but I don't feel it's an 11. It's like right under Novo Mundo, has an equal number of tricky parts, but none area as bad as the wall and all can be cheated. The first pic with the jumps btw has never seemed hard for me, the jack doesn't even result in any sort of framer, it's less fast than the mini jacks in Novo Mundo as far as I can tell.

The highest 10, but not an 11 in my mind.

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I hate how hard BRWP is when I random VCs in mp or when I random VCs in SP. But imo, much like how OtFD is the hardest 9 (way too hard for a 9 imo cos I suck at stream), BRWP is a good benchmark for the hardest VC. Anything harder than this is def a FMO, no doubt about it.

Some of the patterns are very tricky, that roll can be jumptrilled as doss has mentioned. Not enough of a sway in it to push it to FMO, i'd vote for it to remain as an upper benchmark for VCs.

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Bumping this because I just played it, and I really feel it should be bumped to an FMO.

Like Stavie said, BRWP has an equal number of tricky parts as Novu Mundo, but the level of difficulty those areas give along with the broken jumpstream which can be incredibly hard to follow do warrant a bump. Those areas mentioned by Rushy shows just how difficult it really is, and while the 2nd picture is jumptrillable, it doesn't mean people going for a AAA don't have nerves. I know when I have nerves on a file that has jumptrillable patterns, I actually subconsciously try to legitimately do a pattern instead of jumptrill it because I'm so ~in the moment~.

I think BRWP should definitely be an FMO.

EDIT: We always talk about files like OtFD and Radical Rat being the "Boss of their difficulty". In the VC difficulty, we have two of those, BRWP, and Feld. Obviously, BRWP is more difficult (lolsubjective) than Feld, but Feld is still considered one of the top 10's. Let's have Feld be the example of the highest VC, and BRWP be an example of the lowest FMO, along with Novo Mundo.

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While the pace of this song is considerably faster than most VCs, a lot of the patterns flow very smoothly. Regardless of frame placements, if you follow the song's rhythms to a tee and aggressively attack patterns, you'll nail them nearly 100% of the time. It's all about confidence.

I definitely can see this as a benchmark VC, with anything being above it being FMO.

Re: Bus Rides With People [10 or 11]

Make it an fmo because I have 1.1.0.1 on it

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Dossar put it best when he said that the 4th arrow before that roll totally kills the transition. It's not as simple as just jumptrilling it since there's that up arrow in the way. The speed of the file makes that transition easy to overlook and screw up with relative ease. I'm still advocating for this to be an 11 since it feels like a high 10 for the majority of the file, but with 11esque parts that bump it up to the next level.

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I've honestly never known that there was an "awkward" roll there at the end. It's never been a problem to hit it tbh. I've always found the mini jacks at around 380 to be quite tricky though.

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So it's not "Bus Rides With my Penis?"

But agreed; it's just not hard enough to move upward. It's fast, sure, and somewhat awkward at parts, but it's just a notch below Feldschlatt's homobursts and if Feld stays 10, so should BRWmP.

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In my opinion, BRWP is muchhh harder than Novo Mundo which is an 11... I have NEVER been able to AAA the beginning burst and that ending roll is just aids.. The jumpgluts arent much of a problem neither is any other part of the file. I say either this gets moved up or Novo gets moved down? lol

Re: Bus Rides With People [10 or 11]

10.5

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:')

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Feld is far trickier from an objective view as far as I can tell. I think the gap between the two files is much larger than people think. I'm still for raising Feldschlatt to FMO, BRWP? Not so much. They are both the bosses, but subjectivemanias aside, I feel objectively I could explain why Feld is harder, I won't however unless requested. But I say if we move BRWP up, then Feld must be moved up as well, consistency is key.

Also, BRWP has nearly twice as many AAA's as Feldschlatt...hmm. Feldschlatt is longer, more consistently difficult (it doesn't have breaks like in BRWP), lever lets up with the jumpstream and grace notes which are so easy to get goods on, including some extremely tricky PA killers, and a triple 16th jack at the end just to steal the AAA from you. It requires more control and consistency. Feldschlatt has constantly dense patterns that are tricky to read and require lots of control and have odd syncopation that trips you up easily, on top of strange mini jacks, including one in a 24th 3 rolls out of nowhere. BRWP has maybe 3 tricky parts, 2 of which can be cheated, 1 of which is easy to learn, figure out, and has plenty of reaction time (the 32nd 64th weird jump thing near the beginning). The rest of the file is straight forward 16th stream that's far easier than LWIV, which we dropped to VC a while ago. This should not be moved up.