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  • rushyrulz
    Digital Dancing!
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 12985

    #1

    Why can't I get oni?

    With over 50 VC AAAs, I've yet to get Oni, let alone any FMO AAA. Every FMO I've gotten close to AAAing is now a VC.

    Is this list for oni unlocks still accurate? I'd hate to finally AAA one and not get the token.
    Originally posted by jimerax
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    76 (M) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=934]Novo Mundo [/url](1264 Notes / BPM 140)
    76 (D2) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=465]None Would Escape [/url](1372 Notes / BPM 48-190)
    76 (M) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=707]Choprite [/url](1796 Notes / BPM 100-200)
    77 (P) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=103]Silence [/url](1482 Notes / BPM 140)
    77 (S) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=185]Lawn Wake IV [/url](1059 Notes / BPM 217)
    77 (R) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=638]Southern Cross [/url](2123 Notes / BPM 40-172)
    77 (S) [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=297]K8107 [/url](1071 Notes / BPM 180)
    [color=red][b]77 (M) [/b][/color][url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=895]Hajnal [/url](2000 Notes / BPM 174)
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    [color=red][b]79 (C)[/b][/color] [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=45]Flight of the Bumblebee [/url](862 Notes / BPM 398)
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    [color=red][b]82 (R)[/b][/color] [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/levelstats.php?level=936]Eradication [/url](1342 Notes / BPM 200-220)
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    The token description should also be changed to "AAA an upper FMO song picked by FFR elites, so you can be deemed worthy of having the token." Because there are plenty of FMOs that you can AAA and not get oni. It just doesn't seem fair how all the difficulties are being rearranged and other people were able to get it with easier songs, and now it's feels like as I get better, the token keeps getting harder and harder.

    At this rate, I'll never be a token whore.

    *blows off steam*


  • Plan_Bsk81127
    snooches
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2007
    • 6420

    #2
    Re: Why can't I get oni?

    Just because you have X amount of VC AAA's doesnt assure you should be getting Oni. You could AAA all the easy VC's and get a high VC. Getting a FMO AAA is tough but something you need to keep working at, play FMO's/Fgo's more often and shoot for PA. Find a Oni unlock that you find in you range of abilities. Just keep working on it is all I can say.


    These songs will also unlock Otaku Speedvibe Oni:
    Gaussian Blur
    BloodMeat
    Church Bells
    Brandish Headless
    Thrash
    Master Maid
    Summer Time Perfume
    Toxiferous Dystopia
    3020
    Bmv.578
    Night and Day
    Dead and Direct
    Momentary Life
    Document 13B
    Blue-Violet
    Largiloquent Dithyramb
    Perfect Cherry Storm
    Battle Theme 37
    300
    Scythe of 13
    October
    Jeanie and Caroline
    Silly Symphony
    Hellhounds On My Trail
    He's a radical Rat
    World Tour 2004
    Kyrie

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    • Oni-Paranoia
      No fucks
      • Dec 2006
      • 2440

      #3
      Re: Why can't I get oni?

      And just to think that if you AAAed any of those (now VC's that were FMO) songs just some time before, you would have had it by now. FFR is retarded for changing difficulties rather than widening the scale.

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      • rushyrulz
        Digital Dancing!
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2006
        • 12985

        #4
        Re: Why can't I get oni?

        Which song out of that list is the easiest in your opinions?

        EDIT: after trying all the feasible songs on that list, I've determined, I'm never getting oni.
        Last edited by rushyrulz; 10-26-2010, 01:06 PM.


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        • Im Vince
          Allez Montréal!
          • Aug 2007
          • 819

          #5
          Re: Why can't I get oni?

          300
          When I was good I had 3 goods and a boo on it. Hajnal can be a good choice too,if you can do rolls.
          AAAs: 817
          Difficulty 66+ AAAs: 35
          Best AAA: Nomina Nuda Tenemus (81)

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          • rushyrulz
            Digital Dancing!
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2006
            • 12985

            #6
            Re: Why can't I get oni?

            Originally posted by Im Vince
            300
            I suck at 300

            Originally posted by Im Vince
            Hajnal can be a good choice too,if you can do rolls.
            I can't do the trill or anything past 1300.

            Reasons for all:
            Gaussian Blur - rolls in the end, dumb 4314314314312431431431 mid section
            BloodMeat - length, bullcrap trill
            Church Bells - bursts, hand jacks
            Brandish Headless - length, crazy solo part
            Thrash - blocks at 900
            Master Maid - cbf to whore and AAA like 8 32nd rolls in a row
            Summer Time Perfume - bursts, ending
            Toxiferous Dystopia - no.
            3020 - rolls, jump jacks
            Bmv.578 - the end
            Night and Day - length, can't PA the 24th js
            Dead and Direct - 64ths
            Momentary Life - length, trills
            Document 13B - no.
            Blue-Violet - no.
            Largiloquent Dithyramb - length, I always get a random miss/boo/good somewhere, even though I can AAA the beginning
            Perfect Cherry Storm - can't do the bursts
            Battle Theme 37 - minijacks at 250 and later on
            300 - everything from 750+
            Scythe of 13 - weird jump trill combinations
            October - no.
            Jeanie and Caroline - bursts are too fast for me to PA.
            Silly Symphony - no.
            Hellhounds On My Trail - no.
            He's a radical Rat - used to be a FGO.. no.
            World Tour 2004 - over 8 minutes..
            Kyrie - trill
            Last edited by rushyrulz; 10-26-2010, 01:14 PM.


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            • Im Vince
              Allez Montréal!
              • Aug 2007
              • 819

              #7
              Re: Why can't I get oni?

              take the one you have the best score on and whore it :P
              when you get a mental block switch to mirror (yay features)
              AAAs: 817
              Difficulty 66+ AAAs: 35
              Best AAA: Nomina Nuda Tenemus (81)

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              • rushyrulz
                Digital Dancing!
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2006
                • 12985

                #8
                Re: Why can't I get oni?

                Originally posted by Im Vince
                take the one you have the best score on and whore it :P
                when you get a mental block switch to mirror (yay features)
                What if I have blocks on mirror? >.>


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                • rushyrulz
                  Digital Dancing!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 12985

                  #9
                  Re: Why can't I get oni?

                  I blocked every possible screen rotation on Hardkore Atomic and EHHS.


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                  • Oni-Paranoia
                    No fucks
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 2440

                    #10
                    Re: Why can't I get oni?

                    Originally posted by rushyrulz
                    I blocked every possible screen rotation on Hardkore Atomic and EHHS.
                    Serves you right for cheating. (Yes, I consider any type of turning including mirror cheating.) Try Battle Theme 37, (whore it a bit). Other than the mini jacks you shouldn't have a problem then.

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                    • kmay
                      Don't forget me
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6523

                      #11
                      Re: Why can't I get oni?

                      Play FGO's on a higher speed mod you are used to then put speed mod back and play some VC's or something until you've re-adjusted and whore FMO's

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                      • TC_Halogen
                        Rhythm game specialist.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 19376

                        #12
                        Re: Why can't I get oni?

                        World Tour 2004 might be your best bet because it's most definitely the easiest song on there. You just need to be able to give full concentration for over 8 minutes.

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                        • MrMagic5239
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 4096

                          #13
                          Re: Why can't I get oni?

                          Well considering the only one I saw that has the simplest reason to overcome would be Kyrie. Just practice the trills.
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                          Arme (Mage/Alchemist/Warlock/Battle Mage) Lvl 80/80 MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 1
                          Ronan (Spell Knight/Dragon Knight/Aegis Knight/Abyss Knight) Lvl 80/80, MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 1
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                          Jin (Fighter/Shisa/Asura/Rama) Lvl 80/80, MP Bars 4/4 EXP Rank 1
                          Zero (Seeker/Wanderer) Lvl 79/80, MP Bars 4/4 EXP Rank 9
                          Dio (Stygian/Drakar//Leviathan) Lvl 80/80, MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 1
                          Rin (Caller) Lvl 77/80, MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 32
                          Rufus (Bounty Hunter/Killer/Ravager/Arbiter) Lvl 80/80, MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 1
                          Ley (Summoner/Harbringer) lvl 79/80, MP Bars 4/4, EXP Rank 21
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                          • Superfreak04
                            D7 Elite Keymasher
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 2407

                            #14
                            Re: Why can't I get oni?

                            Battle Theme 37, Jeanie and Caroline, and Thrash are the easiest IMO.

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                            • customstuff
                              ♥C.S. + A.M.♥
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 4892

                              #15
                              Re: Why can't I get oni?

                              I got it on Largiloquent Dithyramb when only 12 other people AAA'd it that were all D5. I was in D3 at the time but that moved me up to D4 :'(

                              Basically, just find one that has your specialty. I'm amazing at jacks and awkward rhythms compared to other things, so that song was perfect for me.

                              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
                              Placements are final, custom will not be moved to D6, just because he is good at jacks, and mediocre at just about every other FMO in the game.
                              Originally posted by customstuff
                              Originally posted by MrMagic5239
                              welcome to D6

                              start playing

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