IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

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  • Goldenwind
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2006
    • 762

    #1

    IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

    I'm a tactician, and a philosopher (As a hobby, not as a profession). As such, I like to observe things as they happen, and figure out why they do.

    Why is this person saying these words, with that body language, and in that tone?
    Etc.

    What is love? To me, it's the feeling of attraction or euphoria that you feel for a noun. However, much like the lottery, you need to swing the bat a hell of a lot of times before you actually get a hit.

    Knowing that it's depressing to search without avail, and that the majority of relationships (At my age, 19, anyway) end up breaking eventually anyway, is it worth trying to love, or would people be better off just living their lives alone?

    Another vague way of expressing this, is trusting others an asset or a liability to your emotional health, especially when it's already a liability at the difficulty of finding anyone trustworthy?
    They say there's a sun in the sky...
  • SnS
    FFR Veteran
    • Jun 2007
    • 680

    #2
    Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

    Love! Life is short, you must do things! Love!

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    • Goldenwind
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2006
      • 762

      #3
      Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

      Originally posted by SnS
      Love! Life is short, you must do things! Love!
      Agreed that if you're going to do something, that you should while you can...
      ...but is it worth it?

      I've never slept in a dog's house in my life, and while I'm not psychic, I don't think I ever will. Why? I don't see the benefit, and don't view it really as worth it.

      Love is something a little less one-sided though. There are benefits, and there are negatives. In searching for someone, there is a large chance for a small negative (Being rejected, just feeling down from being lonely and unable to find anyone, etc), and the is a small chance for a large positive (Finding someone you're happy with).

      Mathematically:
      Positive = 0.1*1000 (10% chance for something positive to happen, and a large (1000) effect when it does)
      Negative = -0.9*100 (90% chance for something negative to happen, but small (100) effect when it does)

      So the average net would be you'll have to endure 90 sadness, but you'll get 100 happiness in the process, so it would be worth it in the end.

      A less abstract way to view this is in terms of gamling: Large chance you'll lose, but a small chance you'll win big. However, casinos would never make a profit if they didn't lean things in their favour, so they rig things to give you a slightly higher chance of losing. This is why gambling is a poor method for making money for the average person.

      Sadly, however, love doesn't have set win/lose ratios, or measurable effects.

      Taking everything into account, is it worth even trying, or would it be a liability, and we would get more out of this life by removing relationships from it?
      They say there's a sun in the sky...

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      • Lambda
        Lambda
        • Jan 2005
        • 80

        #4
        Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

        I think for essentially all humans it is worth it to spend time searching for love. The people I know who have made it into their 30's or later without getting into any serious relationships seem to be extremely unhappy.

        I also don't think you can even get close to calculating a reasonable expected value for the future worth of such an endeavor since there are so many variables at work; can you really estimate how happy a particular relationship would make you if you haven't experienced it?

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        • imockthepea
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 235

          #5
          Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

          It's a personal belief. I think it is worth it to look for love. Something about the chase is always fun, and it opens your mind to new ideas. However there are those who would argue that being alone is just as rewarding. I don't know how those people feel so I can not comment or give an example.
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          • gabgabo
            FFR Veteran
            • Feb 2007
            • 1811

            #6
            Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

            It's better to love and loose instead of never loving at all. Experience makes it better. Also, shouldn't this go in Critical Thinking?

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5289

              #7
              Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

              Dude, better to love. the end

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              • devonin
                Very Grave Indeed
                Event Staff
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Apr 2004
                • 10120

                #8
                Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                Originally posted by gabgabo
                It's better to love and loose instead of never loving at all. Experience makes it better. Also, shouldn't this go in Critical Thinking?
                It was moved -from- critical thinking for not being critical or thinky enough.

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                • All_That_Chaz
                  Supreme Dictator For Life
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5874

                  #9
                  Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                  Consider me a primary source, if you will.

                  I dated a girl I was head over heels in love with for seven months from the summer of 02 to the spring of 03. This was my senior year of high school. When we broke up, I was heartbroken. I attempted suicide twice over her (not looking for sympathy, just stating facts). I rebounded with other girls but was so numb I couldn't even become sexually aroused. I spent most of college dwelling on her and wondering if I'd ever feel what I felt for her again. I was in therapy for a while at college due to her. I got over her somewhat abruptly in the summer of 06 when we worked at the same summer camp and she showed how big of an idiot she is. ...it's a long story you can pm/aim me if you care to hear it.

                  Anyway, the reason I told you that is that because even after all that. After going through college without even caring about relationships. After ruining my late teens - early twenties on her, still, it was worth it. Just knowing that I was that happy and knowing what I know now about love makes it worth it. What are humans if not vessels for experience? Why read and wonder about love and heartache when you could experience them for yourself?
                  Back to "Back to Earth"
                  Originally posted by FoJaR
                  dammit chaz
                  Originally posted by FoJaR
                  god dammit chaz
                  Originally posted by MalReynolds
                  I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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                  • smartdude1212
                    2 is poo
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 6687

                    #10
                    Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                    Originally posted by Goldenwind
                    I'm a tactician, and a philosopher (As a hobby, not as a profession). As such, I like to observe things as they happen, and figure out why they do.
                    semi-creepy depending on the situation

                    Why is this person saying these words, with that body language, and in that tone?
                    Etc.
                    they want to hear of other people's love troubles

                    What is love?
                    an unconscious state of mind

                    However, much like the lottery, you need to swing the bat a hell of a lot of times before you actually get a hit.
                    this was funny

                    Knowing that it's depressing to search without avail, and that the majority of relationships (At my age, 19, anyway) end up breaking eventually anyway, is it worth trying to love, or would people be better off just living their lives alone?
                    self-gratification

                    Another vague way of expressing this, is trusting others an asset or a liability to your emotional health, especially when it's already a liability at the difficulty of finding anyone trustworthy?
                    accounting

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                    • AntiGov
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 40

                      #11
                      Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                      Why do you want to know other people's opinions instead of trying to find out for yourself? It's pointless for anyone in this forum to tell you how much love is worth the risk because those feelings/connections aren't exactly something that is to be described, only experienced. I'm not saying that it's impossible to explain, it's just totally different experiencing it.
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                      • Nyokou
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                        • Apr 2005
                        • 4246

                        #12
                        Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                        First one. Simple answer.
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                        • DrugstoreCowboy
                          Is Famouz
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 3409

                          #13
                          Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                          all i have to say is that i love your way with words and way of thinking goldenwind!

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                          • Rubin0
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                            A broken heart is a beautiful thing.
                            The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                            • Hylian
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 314

                              #15
                              Re: IS it better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all?

                              Originally posted by SnS
                              Love! Life is short, you must do things! Love!
                              Life is the longest thing you will ever do... I don't know how that qualifies as "Short".

                              ^_^


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