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  • Justice Beloved
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 58

    #1

    I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

    ....but does this game really need like 300 levels? I'm sorry but a lot of them aren't much different from each other. At the expense of cutting the game down, you only need so many levels before you've essentially played every level, and all the levels that follow are just.... old.

    Maybe this comment isn't very constructive; I guess what I'm wondering is if there's ever going to be a set number of levels? Like, when 3rd style comes out, is production on this current version of R1 (whatever you call it) going to halt?

    It just seems like every level from difficulty 7 up follows a pattern of:

    red, yellow, blue, yellow, JUMP, yellow, blue, yellow, JUMP, yellow, JUMP, yellow, JUMP, yellow, blue, yellow..... and so on.

    Or, you have your classic jumpstream level, where, in a desperate attempt to make the level hard(er than it needs to be), everything became a jump, whether or not it was musically inclined.

    And then there are your genuine fresh levels. And I haven't played EVERY level (I played more when I didn't have an account), but I've seen my friend play them and a lot of them look.... well.... similar. =/

    Okay, I'll ask a valid question: when 3rd style comes out, what happens to production of the current version? Or, what happens to the current version (will it stay)?
  • massflavour
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2007
    • 3102

    #2
    Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

    someone who doesn't want more songs? lol. play sm if you don't want super-generic files.
    .

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    • Justice Beloved
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2007
      • 58

      #3
      Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

      I know, it's a little odd not wanting more levels. I do want more levels. I just want them to somehow be different from the last 40 levels I played.

      And I've played Stepmania. It's fun. But there's no real ranking like there is on FFR. All the AAAs feel kind of.... I dunno, empty.

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      • phe0nixblade
        Praise the sun mofo
        • Sep 2005
        • 4281

        #4
        Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

        Originally posted by Justice Beloved
        I know, it's a little odd not wanting more levels. I do want more levels. I just want them to somehow be different from the last 40 levels I played.

        And I've played Stepmania. It's fun. But there's no real ranking like there is on FFR. All the AAAs feel kind of.... I dunno, empty.
        AAA's feel empty because...You've never gotten one on more then a 10 footer in SM.

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        • -Moo-
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1199

          #5
          Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

          jerk

          touch my pokeballz

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          • Justice Beloved
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 58

            #6
            Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

            Hahaha, I suppose it is my fate to be flamed. Oh well.

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            • Adamaja456
              Absurd
              • Dec 2006
              • 6433

              #7
              Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

              I don't mind if some of the songs have the same jump streams or same trills


              It's fun to play a VARIETY of songs. End of story.


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              • rade0110
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2004
                • 1253

                #8
                Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                There are quite a few variations in stepping... especially when you get to 10+ difficulty songs. Yes, there are commonly used stepping ideas (i.e. trills, jumpstream, runningmen, etc.) but, you only have 4 arrows to use. You really can't expect every single song to be completely different can you?
                Originally posted by Synthlight
                Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

                Cheers,

                Synthlight

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                • Justice Beloved
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 58

                  #9
                  Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                  No, you can't, it wouldn't be fair. That's sort of the point of this thread: if you can't expect every level to be different, how many levels of the same thing do you really need?

                  And again, I'm not saying they're all the same. But a lot of them are the same as other levels.

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                  • Tasselfoot
                    Retired BOSS
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 25185

                    #10
                    Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                    i think you're way overgeneralizing an issue.... you've been here for a month....

                    but, to give a short answer to your question: yes. more levels the better.
                    RIP

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                    • Justice Beloved
                      FFR Player
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 58

                      #11
                      Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                      Okay. I guess you're not going to answer the 3rd style questions. I wish I hadn't missed out on that radio thing. But I heard it was 2 hours long. =/

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                      • Sprite-
                        HAVE ME WITH VODKA
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 7316

                        #12
                        Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                        just wait until the next big batch of files come. songs that are composed of one big 32nd jack

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                        • Justice Beloved
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 58

                          #13
                          Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                          Uh.... that sounds.... fun? Different, certainly....

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                          • Tasselfoot
                            Retired BOSS
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 25185

                            #14
                            Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                            meh. as far as third style is concerned... the current engine will remain as a "legacy" version. but 3rd style will have all new charts (with some songs over form 2nd style with new charts).

                            BUT.... while 3rd style will start with "less than 300 songs"... we have similar plans to have it grow like 2nd style is currently.
                            RIP

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                            • devonin
                              Very Grave Indeed
                              Event Staff
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 10120

                              #15
                              Re: I don't mean to sound like a jerk....

                              Certain selected songs from 2nd style will be converted to 3rd style. If they stepfiles are good, they will move over as they are. If the stepfiles are not good, they will be redone.

                              Within 3rd style I can think of no reason why they would impose an arbitrary limit on the number of songs that will be in it.

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