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  • aperson
    FFR Hall of Fame
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    • Jul 2003
    • 3431

    #1

    The ask aperson about drugs thread

    Okay, I just noticed this in the legalization of marijuana thread, but it seems like a lot of people here are very, very uninformed about drugs and what they do to your body. Therefore, I'd like to answer any questions you all have about any drug and what it may do to your mind/body. Also, since I support safety, I will answer questions about dosages of drugs to the best of my knowledge and with my mass of drug research articles I have to make sure that you don't hurt you or yourself if you really want to try a drug.

    I'll give a basic summary of the common drugs here:

    Alcohol: Generally safe if you do it in a controlled environment. Alcohol effects people in unpredictable ways and can cause some people to turn violent and belligerent. If you do this drug know your limits and do NOT drink more because of peer pressure. Also, if you have an addictive personality I would make sure to carefully moderate your usage of this drug. Alcohol can kill you and alcohol poisining is a very real threat.

    Caffeine: Not many people realize this is a drug, and many, many people abuse the hell out of it. Caffeine is an addictive stimulant and is found in a myriad soft drinks and other popular food items. Caffeine has a physical withdrawal where you will experience headaches and nausea/discomfort if you stop using caffeine after regular use. To all those people drinking packs of mt. dew and the like, lay off. There are better drugs to get your hands on and a dependence on stimulants isn't pretty (i.e. coke, meth)

    Tobacco: No, stay away, just don't do it. Tobacco is very, very addictive and gives you nothing more than a slight headrush that you become accustomed to after a brief usage. There's no reason to do this drug unless you hate money.

    Marijuana: Ahh, the first illegal substance. It's quite sad and pretty confusing that this is illegal while tobacco and alcohol are legal. Different strains of marijuana will affect you in different ways because there are two different strains: cannabis sativa and cannabis indica. There's a general saying that the first few times you smoke you don't really get high. I found this to be true myself. If you do it once and don't feel anything, try it a few more times till you learn what it's about... and trust me, you'll know when you're there. Also, after you do get high for your first time do not be scared of the effects on your body. Yes, numbness in your fingers or toes is normal, yes cotton mouth is normal, yes your heart beating fast as hell is normal. Furthermore, your weed is not laced with something. I could go into all the reasons that weed isn't laced but I'll keep it simple: It is not economically smart for drug dealers to lace weed and drug dealers are out to make money, not mess people up. If your weed is laced, you'll know it's laced before you smoke it. Weed is mildly psychologically addicitve, and quitting after regular use often leads to difficulty sleeping. Also, no one has ever died smoking weed, don't worry. The lethal dose of weed is approximately equal to a crate full of weed.

    DXM (aka robitussin): Ahh, this is an interesting drug. but first, an important note. If you do robitussin be absolutely positive that the only active ingredient in the tussin is dextromethorphan hydrobromide. If there is a second active ingredient taking a recreational dose will damage your liver. Furthermore, I DO NOT recommend using this drug more than once every two weeks. Though research is inconclusive, there is reason to believe that habitually using DXM will damage you permanently; however, occasional use is generally safe, and using it once won't hurt you. From around 100mg-300mg you'll feel slight effects from the drug, and above that to around 600mg these affects amplify. Above 600mg is where you hit what's called the 'third plateaur.' Here, effects like temporary blindness and loss of motor skills are common. It can be fun to experiment up here, but as far as all you kids at FFR go, don't go this high. My recommended first time dose is 300-350mg. DXM also has a rather annoying comedown. You might notice that you can't focus your eyes while on the drug or coming down, also, you will feel fried and you will feel like crap the next day... that's what you get for messing with drugs.

    That's all I'll go through because for the average person at FFR I do not suggest experimenting with anything else except maybe mushrooms. However, I will answer questions about any drug you want to ask about.

    Do not discuss purchasing these drugs or where to purchase them. It's okay to ask me how much it typically costs for some kind of drug, but asking about specifics is a grey area as far as legality goes and I will kick your ass for doing so.

  • Afrobean
    Admiral in the Red Army
    • Dec 2003
    • 13262

    #2
    RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

    I hear that stuff about not getting high the first time, but it definitely wasn't a problem for anyone I know.

    Is there any reason why one wouldn't get high the first time? I'd think having never done it before, they'd be more susceptible to getting high.

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    • MalReynolds
      CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
      • Sep 2003
      • 6571

      #3
      RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

      Well... This is from the people I know. It has to do with the way they inhale and not keeping the smoke in long enough. Could just be an urban myth, though. Aperson really is better suited for answering this question.

      Mal
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      • aperson
        FFR Hall of Fame
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3431

        #4
        Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

        Originally posted by Afrobean
        I hear that stuff about not getting high the first time, but it definitely wasn't a problem for anyone I know.

        Is there any reason why one wouldn't get high the first time? I'd think having never done it before, they'd be more susceptible to getting high.
        It probably has to do with not taking hits properly, I know the first time I smoked I didn't pull it down deep enough into my lungs. Tell a first time smoker to keep on pulling in till they feel like they're going to explode, then tell them to swallow it all down into their lungs and blow out through their nose.

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        • MalReynolds
          CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
          • Sep 2003
          • 6571

          #5
          RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

          Wow. I wasn't half wrong.

          Mal
          "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

          "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


          My new novel:

          Maledictions: The Offering.

          Now in Paperback!

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          • talisman
            Resident Penguin
            FFR Simfile Author
            • May 2003
            • 4598

            #6
            RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

            afro, he's right. A lot of people don't get high for the first few times.

            ap let us know when you try lsd... I understand it's probably alot safer than DXM, anyway, if harder to get.

            ps you might also just want to post the link to that erowid site where all those FAQs are (I read the one on DXM after getting curious reading about your trip).

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            • Afrobean
              Admiral in the Red Army
              • Dec 2003
              • 13262

              #7
              RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

              Wow. That's kinda silly that people wouldn't be able to inhale properly.

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              • aperson
                FFR Hall of Fame
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                • Jul 2003
                • 3431

                #8
                Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                Originally posted by talisman
                afro, he's right. A lot of people don't get high for the first few times.

                ap let us know when you try lsd... I understand it's probably alot safer than DXM, anyway, if harder to get.

                ps you might also just want to post the link to that erowid site where all those FAQs are (I read the one on DXM after getting curious reading about your trip).
                I've actually done acid now. To say that it completely blew my expectations would be an understatement. Honestly, you can't prepare yourself for acid. But, if you try hallucinogens I'll stress the one important rule: Set and setting. Make sure you are in a comfortable place with people you know where nothing bad will happen. Turn off and unplug any phones and make sure you won't be around people who can't know that you're tripping.

                As for the trip itself, many people think that acid is just a visual thing. Trust me, acid changes your mentality so much it's not even funny. Personally, I took 3 hits when I tried it. This led to an amazing visual trip (walls breathing, color swirls, trees turning into fractal dragons) as well as a complete mental world where I had some pretty profound revelations. For a first time acid user I'd recommend just taking one hit then moving up. I took 3 only because I'm comfortable with myself and I know my limits. Be warned though, that acid has been found to bring up mental issues such as schizophrenia in people who have some kind of latent disorder. This means that if you have a mental illness but not really know it, acid might amplify it afterwards. To date, I have experienced no 'acid flashbacks' in the sense that people generally think. I have seen objects that reminded me of tripping and put myself in a similar state of mind which provided entertainment, but I did not start tripping again. I would only recommend acid to someone who has tried other hallucinogens first, and only to a person who is comfortable with themselves. Also, be warned that occasionally DOB can be on an acid blotter instead of acid. DOB can cause intense nausea and very vivid and powerful hallucinations, and has caused people to do some pretty messed up things. Though it's not common to get DOB instead of acid, be careful and make sure you are getting your stuff from a reputable dealer.

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                • talisman
                  Resident Penguin
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2003
                  • 4598

                  #9
                  RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                  yeah, set and setting is all they talk about for hallucinogen safety.

                  also, it's pretty much impossible to die off of lsd unless you take like 3000 times the normal dose or something.

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                  • evilbutterfly
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 5784

                    #10
                    RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                    I think you should definitely warn people that smoking too much weed at once can and will get you sick. Like, throwing up stuff you're so sick. I know I'm not the only person here who did way too much (I have no idea how to measure out how much you do, but I kept inhaling x__x) and got sick to the point of throwing up. Nobody EVER told me this could happen, and it makes me want to never do it again.

                    So yeah, kids, if people explain to you how to hit it right and you're a fast learner like I am, don't go crazy and pull in way more than you can handle. Better to go in little steps than take a bunch right away your first time. -___-
                    So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                    In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                    So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                    And I write the blog for their website.

                    Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                    • plasmix
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 3639

                      #11
                      RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                      What's the name of that drug that made those people burn to 116 deg body temp?

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                      • aperson
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3431

                        #12
                        Re: RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                        Originally posted by plasmix
                        What's the name of that drug that made those people burn to 116 deg body temp?
                        No idea, but MDMA (pure ecstacy, not adulterated with meth) raises body temperature, but not by THAT much. Maybe a lethal dose of ecstacy?

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                        • RadioLegit
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2005
                          • 17

                          #13
                          Re: RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                          Originally posted by aperson
                          Originally posted by plasmix
                          What's the name of that drug that made those people burn to 116 deg body temp?
                          No idea, but MDMA (pure ecstacy, not adulterated with meth) raises body temperature, but not by THAT much. Maybe a lethal dose of ecstacy?
                          MDMA won't raise your body temperature unless something else was cut into that pill, like DXM. MDMA doesn't have any known lethal dosage as the chemical itself isn't directly toxic. Most deaths are the result of indirect things like overhydration, dehydration, and being irresponsible.

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                          • jewpinthethird
                            (The Fat's Sabobah)
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 11711

                            #14
                            Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                            Originally posted by Afrobean
                            Wow. That's kinda silly that people wouldn't be able to inhale properly.
                            It's tougher than it sounds. I remember my first time smoking marijuana. I thought I was inhaling when in fact I was just sucking the smoke into my mouth like I would drinking a soda through a straw. My friends noticed that I was exhaling a lot of smoke, meaning the smoke wasnt getting into my lungs. Basically they told me to relax and just try taking a deep breath instead.

                            Simply put, if it is your first time smoking, you will know right away when you do get a good hit.

                            I dont know about anyone else, but the two times I did smoke I felt like I was on fire. It kind of sucked. But, oh god, Aphex Twin's 4 never sounded better. And cup cakes have never tasted as delicious.

                            Warning: when you are high, you are automatically the stupidest you will ever be...which is fun, but really embarrassing once you arent high and you have to apologize to this girl because you were pretending that her cellphone was actually your's. I swear, it was hilarious at the time. Time will also slow to a crawl. What seems like 20 minutes may actually only be 3...or even less. Time basically stops...this too will be hilarious...for some reason asking someone "what time is it?" and getting the same answer will be really fun and then you will say to your friend "Jesus christ, this is the longest minute in the world!"

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                            • MrGiggles
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2846

                              #15
                              RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: The ask aperson about drugs thread

                              robitussin
                              Wait, this is something new for me. I thought robitussin was an over-the-counter drug, for, I think, sinuses.
                              Originally posted by Wikipedia
                              Robitussin is a brand of cold and cough medicines produced by Wyeth.
                              That's what Wikipedia syas, anyway. Is this the same thing, or something else?

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