Any active places for charting disscusion?

**gold stinger** · 01-13-2021, 08:36 AM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

you got banned? That's news to me. Genuinely interested in why.

Could start up a general simfile song & patterns discussion thread on here, and aim for having the same content that the #simfiles chat in FFR had, but likely 90+% of the playerbase will just communicate in #simfiles vs the thread, for convenience.

I'm not aware of other active places for charting discussion, since I'm not heavily tied to any other communities. I would assume Osu probably has something given how massive the playerbase for that is in contrast.

**XelNya** · 01-13-2021, 08:55 AM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by ElectricZap9

VSRG Charters Collection is barely active, are there any active places for charting discussion?

PS: Also, I'm banned from The EO and FFR discords so are there any alternatives?

As an aside:

If you didn't do anything horrible, shoot one of the discord mods a DM and see if you can sort it out, they can be a little more forgiving than you'd think, or I'd tell you personally.

I can't speak for the EO server though.

**trumaestro** · 01-13-2021, 09:15 AM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

I guess the Quaver discord exists. You'd probably get better advice from the highly experienced charters here tho

**FirstMaple8** · 01-14-2021, 01:36 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

there are many smaller etterna servers but probably nowhere as good as the eo and ffr channels

**Wayward Vagabond** · 01-14-2021, 06:13 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Talk to me about stepcharting

**icontrolyourworld** · 01-14-2021, 08:00 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

what makes a good stepchart?

**Wayward Vagabond** · 01-14-2021, 08:33 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by icontrolyourworld

what makes a good stepchart?

Whatever you think makes up a good chart

**choof** · 01-15-2021, 06:46 AM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

if you read through cosmovibe's guide and post a minipack of like 3-4 files I'll review it

**XelNya** · 01-15-2021, 02:35 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by ElectricZap9

So initially, some people shared the same rough idea of what they think makes up a good chart and in unison, created the judge batch.

And this is what makes the confusion where should a figure or organisation's critique on one's work, they're word is final and the only important one, and must be taken for granted, and anyone's opinion or critique but the figure/organisation's critique is prioritized less and is not taken to consideration.

But of course, that's nonsense and sounds more like a black and white fictional system made by a naive child than the more diverse and possibly intimidating reality.

On FFR: The judge batch is more like a group of users, selected by some other users with a strong catalogue of files, that are generally well-received.

In Etterna: Generally you can release whatever you want, but when someone is organizing a pack, you encounter a different way of subbing files. You've probably got one person going over your file (two or more if they're popular - see Project Alpha / Acerola.) Prepare for more subjective critiques, with a lot of the more objective ones being short handed.

lol quaver
ThirdStyle had the same system FFR does.
lol osu

What you probably want, is to find someone to bounce ideas with, and have them explain the basics, which like Choof said, reading Cosmo's guide to charting is an immaculate place to start, but then you actually need to practice. Stick to songs with static BPMs: Monstercat is an amazing place to start. You won't likely make anything amazing from those, but they're fantastic for practice with Sync / Structure. Stick to charting what you like though, or else you're gonna be unmotivated.

**choof** · 01-15-2021, 05:33 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by XelNya

In Etterna: Generally you can release whatever you want, but when someone is organizing a pack, you encounter a different way of subbing files. You've probably got one person going over your file (two or more if they're popular - see Project Alpha / Acerola.) Prepare for more subjective critiques, with a lot of the more objective ones being short handed.

this depends on the pack, and can also depend on who is running it. guys and gals like myself and rog are going to lean more towards subjectivity because we just like seeing cool ass notes placed to cool ass music. on the other hand, dudes like fission and bobmarley420 are way more technical than I'll ever be. and some lads like halogen are gonna have a healthy dose of both.

Monstercat is an amazing place to start. You won't likely make anything amazing from those, but they're fantastic for practice with Sync / Structure.

rly good point, if you want to stick with fiffer chartz then do some monstercat ones. if it's rejected you have a list of what the various judges are looking for and if it's accepted congrats you are guaranteed that people will play it and likely enjoy it.

the same sentiment applies to stepmania too, but with various other electronic music labels. hunt for some cool sounding 4/4 bleep bloops with a static bpm and start stebping

**choof** · 01-15-2021, 08:19 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

you're in for teh long haul then bub, I've been doing this since like 2006 (april's been around for a while as well)

**Wayward Vagabond** · 01-15-2021, 10:25 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

No one wants to be a budget wv

But for real I'll gladly give you input and you can pick my brain about whatever you're stepping any time just pm me

**VisD** · 01-20-2021, 12:41 AM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond

No one wants to be a budget wv

don't worry

i have a budget wv file in queue

**ositzxz369** · 01-20-2021, 06:21 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by ElectricZap9

wv? What's the title for that?

wagabond vayward

**Wayward Vagabond** · 01-21-2021, 01:10 PM

Re: Any active places for charting disscusion?

Originally posted by ElectricZap9

Oh yeah, I just realised wagabond vayward is in here and wv was his acronym, smh my head.

Yeah, I'm never gonna be a budget wv, wasting my time rehashing what others have already theorized in the past.

Bruh

Originally posted by ElectricZap9

I'm gonna ask another question, but this time about chart editors, what's the mere cause for the audio in DDReam to be influenced by external sources (such as Equalizers, etc) while Arrowvortex's audio remains the same regardless of the external sources are enabled or not?
Also, I can notice to hear 24th triplets in Puzzle now, maybe it's either because DDReam does a little something with the audio compared to Arrowvortex or I just listen to the song too much.

I never noticed this tbh

Any active places for charting disscusion?

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