TWG CXLIV - Post Game

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  • YoshL
    Celestial Harbor
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Aug 2008
    • 6156

    #1

    TWG CXLIV - Post Game

    1.roundbox - Human, Dedded Night 3
    2.dabackpack - HUMAN WON AT END
    3.Gradiant - Human, Lynched Day 1
    4.KirinoKousaka - MAFIA, CONCEEDED AT END
    5.Charu - Human, Dedded Night 2
    6.storn42 - HUMAN WON AT END
    7.Tokzic - Wolf, Dedded Night 2
    8.XelNya - Mafia Movie Stalker, Lynched Day 4
    9.dLGN - Human, Lynched Day 3
    10.Vendetta21 - Human, Dedded Night 2
    11.botchi246 - A HOMELESS GUY WON AT END
    12.rzr - HUMAN WON AT END
    13.Xiz - A Homeless Guy, Lynched Day 2

    Locations (if the color is blue, then it is targettable by the wolves at night)
    ---------
    1) The Dinosaur Den
    2) The Ancient Archives (Frozen during night 1)
    3) The Rockin' Rocks (Frozen during night 4)
    4) The Big Bang Burrow
    5) The Space Space (Frozen during night 2)
    7) Main Hall (never seals, kills half)
    8) The IMAX Movie Theater (2 Attendees during night 4)
    9) The Kidz Zone (Collapsed Night 2) (Seals upon collapse. Collapses when 2+ people use in 1 night)
    10) The Security Booth (Seering booth, if 2+ people use it, they eject into Main Hall)
    11) The Bathrooms (3 uses maximum before sealing)
    ==================================================


    Night 1
    V - kidz
    botchi - bathroom#1
    dlgn - dino den
    backpack - dino den
    AA - AC control room, freeze AA
    storn - main hall
    charu - dinosaur den
    tokzic - security room, target dbp
    rzr - dino den
    xiz - dino den
    roundbox - no pm main hall

    Night 2
    V - kidz
    AA -AC freez Space
    storn - security tokzic
    dlgn - dino den
    tokzic - kidz
    roundbox - main hall
    dbp - dino den
    charu - spacespace
    botchi - spacespace

    Night 3
    AA - freezing security
    dabackpack - dino den
    roundbox - security seering storn
    storn - main hall
    botchi - bathroom#2
    rzr - no pm main hall

    Night 4
    AA - freezing rockin rocks
    storn - security, seering dbp
    dbp - movie theater
    botchi - movies
    rzr - security, seering AA



    ultra fun game to host. idk if i can really give an mvp because AA would get it, but he got wiped by a really bad mechanical play. Wolves played reaaaaaally well, and town got super lucky i think.

    ~

    also did anyone get the flavor text "Sex Live"

    try saying "CXLIV"


    Originally posted by Charu
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  • AragakiAyase
    Waifus
    • Apr 2015
    • 961

    #2
    Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

    lol that flavor text

    I blame mechanics on 9th game

    anyways some player comments:

    V: too scary, that's why we had to kill you lol

    Charu: idk if you really did much lol but you appeared town

    dlgn: you flip-flopped a lot for everybody. This is probably because your playstyle is very different than what is typical on FFR. When we see scumreads we expect to see evidence otherwise we'll typically disregard what is being said as a weak push for a mislynch or something. In the end you snapped really hard to being not-townread which was your downfall.

    xiz: lol pocket

    tokzic: really good fakeclaim, beating a newbie's claim is pretty hard though lol

    xel: disappointed that you didn't do anything

    roundbox: really good meta post on xel and a great read on dlgn but it was too late

    AJ: great start, I hope to see you play again

    rzr: I have no idea why you suspected botchi, you appeared town but at some point you have to dial the paranoia back.

    gradiant: rip

    storn: also did a good job projecting town early on but you have to speak more.

    dbp: typical dbp projecting strong town, good job catching me out on the mechanical slip at the end

    pikakirby123 reincarnated





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    • YoshL
      Celestial Harbor
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Aug 2008
      • 6156

      #3
      Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

      i think a lot of the issue w/ dlgn playing was that regardless of his actions, a lot of the time he would be scumread. like, he'd be in a lose lose situation, and people would just bestow wolfiness upon his actions.

      the confirmation bias is super strong, and tunneling without considering any other points is pretty bad. the complete opposite, borderline schizophrenic paranoia is also bad though.

      like, the only mechanically cleared player was botchi, i think (personally) i would have never let the "AA directs everything" fly from xiz at all lmao. Also, the first thing i said about dlgn being read scummy regardless of his choices was propogated very well by AA


      Originally posted by Charu
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      • XelNya
        [Kaho]
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2012
        • 3368

        #4
        Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

        AA totes deserves mvp. He outplayed so many people it was disgusting.

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        • dLGN
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2015
          • 4

          #5
          Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

          Originally posted by YoshL
          also did anyone get the flavor text "Sex Live"

          try saying "CXLIV"
          I WAS WONDERING!

          also LMFAO that dino den was fucking money.

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          • dLGN
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2015
            • 4

            #6
            Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

            oh I agree with those points. I found it pretty informative, though. it only took me a couple hours to completely come around on rzr being town and that persisted for most of the game until he started pushing the botchi stuff seriously lmao. I was a bit too assertive in trying to lead a paranoid town but I think the aggression side of it was ok, if a bit rude, which I'm sorry for (especially to rzr if he really didn't enjoy a significant part of the game because of it).

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            • dLGN
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2015
              • 4

              #7
              Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

              if the scumteam froze the dino den it would literally have been 3 vs 5 with xiz's 'vest' hit on d2 holy shit.

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              • botchi246
                Keepin it Real since '05
                • Mar 2005
                • 608

                #8
                Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                Tokzic was a fricken beast fakeclaim but xiz flip put you in the ground!!
                AA pocketed me real good at the end.
                Dbp played detective very well.
                Dlgn, you da man for believing me from the beginning.
                Rzr, you were sooo paranoid lol
                Roundbox with the great callouts.
                Xelnya and storn, Grade A potatoes no offense.
                Gradiant, you were out so early, I have no idea how to take you.
                Xiz, my hobro, its too bad it had to be this way.
                V, good game, would have liked to chat with you more about reads.

                Thanks YoshL for great first game. See yall next time!!

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                • Xiz
                  TWG Chaos
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 3399

                  #9
                  Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                  fun game, AA MVP fo sho

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                  • Tokzic
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 6878

                    #10
                    Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                    Originally posted by thesunfan
                    Tokzic suiciding is what I think lost the game for you guys, coupled with Xel still not quite knowing what to do when scum (btw I think you still could've pulled it out tbh, you just need to play your cards right).

                    Him suiciding gave town an extra lynch, and trading his life for V's wasn't really worthwhile imo.

                    WP on both sides. Seeing dLGN get mislynched was pretty funny.
                    when i decided i wanted to fakeclaim, i realised that blowing up the kidz zone was the functionally best thing to do after the first mislynch

                    sure, i could have maybe convinced town to lynch botchi over me, but even if i did i'd be a sure lynch the next phase and kidz zone would have been available for the rest of the game

                    getting rid of a freezeproof room was better in every way than getting rid of the other freezeproof player, plus came with the added bonus of getting rid of a scary townie

                    Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                    • Tokzic
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2005
                      • 6878

                      #11
                      Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                      also 4/5 of my last games of mafia have been red games and my heart could not take it anymore

                      i had to die for my sins

                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • thesunfan
                        Role Tide
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • May 2011
                        • 10859

                        #12
                        Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                        very good point Tokzic, you're right tbh with that in mind.
                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                        Originally posted by XelNya
                        I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                        Originally posted by star-crossed
                        (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                        • Vendetta21
                          Sectional Moderator
                          Sectional Moderator
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2745

                          #13
                          Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                          AA should have kept going

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                          • XelNya
                            [Kaho]
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3368

                            #14
                            Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                            I was gonna post something longer but honestly, I'm a bit too salty to do it properly.

                            Gonna tldr this:

                            AA / Tokzic: You guys are fucking monsters. I learned some things from you guys. I'm sorry for being the weakest link, though tbh I somewhat blame not being able to move at all because the theater is honestly stupid. A free kill is awesome, but there's not a reason to use it till you know the stalker is dead. Which who knows and just. I hated that role admittedly.

                            Botchi: I disagree with you calling me a potato. Especially when you didn't do much more, but when you tried to, arguably it was too late.

                            Round: Your meta post of me was well written I give you that, but as like Botchi, you were late. AA had been pinging me all goddamned game. I genuinely feel AA was more towny than anyone this game. And I KNEW he was scum the whole game, like that was grade A AA there. I would have been convinced and pocketed. I'm pretty sure of that.

                            Also did anyone notice the slip in AA posting our chat log?

                            "If you think I'm a literal hindrance 100% I appreciate the honesty, let me know and I'll see if yoshl can get me replaced

                            And before you like think I'm taking it personally, I'm not. Don't worry about that."

                            Like am I the only one who sees the hindrance statement as being out of place? Because I never talk like that as far as I am aware.

                            Or this:

                            "The tldr is this
                            if someone in game said
                            "oi xel is playing his wolf meta"
                            They couldn't fucking back it up
                            Not with any degree promise anyways
                            It would literally take the whole goddamned town
                            saying "hey who talked to xel"
                            which atm would only happen
                            at one of you fucking prompting it"

                            Like these feel like slips tbh, not sure if they qualify.

                            Asking for future reference.

                            They feel like slips because of the way I say things like "the whole goddamned town."
                            Last edited by XelNya; 12-15-2015, 02:18 AM.

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                            • thesunfan
                              Role Tide
                              Sectional Moderator
                              • May 2011
                              • 10859

                              #15
                              Re: TWG CXLIV - Post Game

                              the first of the two is something that, while it is a slip because you were talking to your partner about strategy, can be viewed as not being a slip because of how it is read, I think. Think of it like this, someone may be getting flak from someone else, neither knowing the others alignment, and they may respond with "I'll replace out if I/you think I am a hindrance." It just feels more out of place because of how you feel about your own meta to me.

                              EDIT: It can be viewed as a slip for you, like if someone showed it to me during the game I'd think it was super sketchy because you said it, but I could see some other players saying it as town.

                              the second one talking about "the whole town" and, by your own wording, not including yourself in the "town" is more obvious, though its not super apparent. Its something a lot of people just do by accident when scum.
                              Last edited by thesunfan; 12-15-2015, 02:50 AM.
                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                              Originally posted by star-crossed
                              (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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