TWG CXLIV - Post Game

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lol that flavor text

I blame mechanics on 9th game

anyways some player comments:

V: too scary, that's why we had to kill you lol

Charu: idk if you really did much lol but you appeared town

dlgn: you flip-flopped a lot for everybody. This is probably because your playstyle is very different than what is typical on FFR. When we see scumreads we expect to see evidence otherwise we'll typically disregard what is being said as a weak push for a mislynch or something. In the end you snapped really hard to being not-townread which was your downfall.

xiz: lol pocket

tokzic: really good fakeclaim, beating a newbie's claim is pretty hard though lol

xel: disappointed that you didn't do anything

roundbox: really good meta post on xel and a great read on dlgn but it was too late

AJ: great start, I hope to see you play again

rzr: I have no idea why you suspected botchi, you appeared town but at some point you have to dial the paranoia back.

gradiant: rip

storn: also did a good job projecting town early on but you have to speak more.

dbp: typical dbp projecting strong town, good job catching me out on the mechanical slip at the end

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i think a lot of the issue w/ dlgn playing was that regardless of his actions, a lot of the time he would be scumread. like, he'd be in a lose lose situation, and people would just bestow wolfiness upon his actions.

the confirmation bias is super strong, and tunneling without considering any other points is pretty bad. the complete opposite, borderline schizophrenic paranoia is also bad though.

like, the only mechanically cleared player was botchi, i think (personally) i would have never let the "AA directs everything" fly from xiz at all lmao. Also, the first thing i said about dlgn being read scummy regardless of his choices was propogated very well by AA

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AA totes deserves mvp. He outplayed so many people it was disgusting.

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I WAS WONDERING!

also LMFAO that dino den was fucking money.

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oh I agree with those points. I found it pretty informative, though. it only took me a couple hours to completely come around on rzr being town and that persisted for most of the game until he started pushing the botchi stuff seriously lmao. I was a bit too assertive in trying to lead a paranoid town but I think the aggression side of it was ok, if a bit rude, which I'm sorry for (especially to rzr if he really didn't enjoy a significant part of the game because of it).

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if the scumteam froze the dino den it would literally have been 3 vs 5 with xiz's 'vest' hit on d2 holy shit.

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Tokzic was a fricken beast fakeclaim but xiz flip put you in the ground!!
AA pocketed me real good at the end.
Dbp played detective very well.
Dlgn, you da man for believing me from the beginning.
Rzr, you were sooo paranoid lol
Roundbox with the great callouts.
Xelnya and storn, Grade A potatoes no offense.
Gradiant, you were out so early, I have no idea how to take you.
Xiz, my hobro, its too bad it had to be this way.
V, good game, would have liked to chat with you more about reads.

Thanks YoshL for great first game. See yall next time!!

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fun game, AA MVP fo sho

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when i decided i wanted to fakeclaim, i realised that blowing up the kidz zone was the functionally best thing to do after the first mislynch

sure, i could have maybe convinced town to lynch botchi over me, but even if i did i'd be a sure lynch the next phase and kidz zone would have been available for the rest of the game

getting rid of a freezeproof room was better in every way than getting rid of the other freezeproof player, plus came with the added bonus of getting rid of a scary townie

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also 4/5 of my last games of mafia have been red games and my heart could not take it anymore

i had to die for my sins

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very good point Tokzic, you're right tbh with that in mind.

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AA should have kept going

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I was gonna post something longer but honestly, I'm a bit too salty to do it properly.

Gonna tldr this:

AA / Tokzic: You guys are fucking monsters. I learned some things from you guys. I'm sorry for being the weakest link, though tbh I somewhat blame not being able to move at all because the theater is honestly stupid. A free kill is awesome, but there's not a reason to use it till you know the stalker is dead. Which who knows and just. I hated that role admittedly.

Botchi: I disagree with you calling me a potato. Especially when you didn't do much more, but when you tried to, arguably it was too late.

Round: Your meta post of me was well written I give you that, but as like Botchi, you were late. AA had been pinging me all goddamned game. I genuinely feel AA was more towny than anyone this game. And I KNEW he was scum the whole game, like that was grade A AA there. I would have been convinced and pocketed. I'm pretty sure of that.

Also did anyone notice the slip in AA posting our chat log?

"If you think I'm a literal hindrance 100% I appreciate the honesty, let me know and I'll see if yoshl can get me replaced

And before you like think I'm taking it personally, I'm not. Don't worry about that."

Like am I the only one who sees the hindrance statement as being out of place? Because I never talk like that as far as I am aware.

Or this:

"The tldr is this
if someone in game said
"oi xel is playing his wolf meta"
They couldn't fucking back it up
Not with any degree promise anyways
It would literally take the whole goddamned town
saying "hey who talked to xel"
which atm would only happen
at one of you fucking prompting it"

Like these feel like slips tbh, not sure if they qualify.

Asking for future reference.

They feel like slips because of the way I say things like "the whole goddamned town."

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the first of the two is something that, while it is a slip because you were talking to your partner about strategy, can be viewed as not being a slip because of how it is read, I think. Think of it like this, someone may be getting flak from someone else, neither knowing the others alignment, and they may respond with "I'll replace out if I/you think I am a hindrance." It just feels more out of place because of how you feel about your own meta to me.

EDIT: It can be viewed as a slip for you, like if someone showed it to me during the game I'd think it was super sketchy because you said it, but I could see some other players saying it as town.

the second one talking about "the whole town" and, by your own wording, not including yourself in the "town" is more obvious, though its not super apparent. Its something a lot of people just do by accident when scum.