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  • Arch0wl
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 6344
    #1

    Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

    The BMS scene has dan tiers that classify songs by difficulty tier. Passing a series of 5 of them makes you that tier.

    "Kaiden" is essentially the hardest tier of songs you can pass, and "Overjoy" is just insane shit that only a dozen or so people can pass.

    I think for Index, Kaiden would be something like my file to the "Arch0wl" song (which I've gotten a high B on) or something a bit harder than Gaussian Mist, and Overjoy would be Disregard

    No idea what spread would be, which is why I'm posting this
    Last edited by Arch0wl; 05-31-2015, 06:47 AM.
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    • Dynam0
      The Dominator
      • Sep 2005
      • 8987
      #2
      Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

      There's a google doc floating around that more or less achieves this but I don't have the link rip (paging eze/guil)

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        • icontrolyourworld
          Enjoy life!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2007
          • 4193
          #3
          Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

          Stepmania Guidelines
          https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dFxFsEUp8Evr-uk0IroD89VnPO_ZkyQ7PxKr05QqQxA/edit#gid=1381977525

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            • EtienneSM
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2013
              • 1724
              #4
              Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

              Perhaps I can come with some kind of overjoy/Kaiden courses for index. Going to take some thinking though. Disregard is a little too easy for overjoy imo. If anything, it'd be the easiest song in that course.
              Quality quotes:

              Originally posted by KgZ
              enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
              Originally posted by Izzy
              I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
              Originally posted by kommisar
              nps is still a better idea for ratings
              Originally posted by klimtkiller
              there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
              Originally posted by Rapta
              My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                • gold stinger
                  Signature Extraordinare~~
                  Event Staff
                  Game Manager
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6428
                  #5
                  Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                  Hey this is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for in Stepmania

                  bookmark'd
                  Originally posted by YoshL
                  butts.


                  - Tosh 2014






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                    • Arch0wl
                      Banned
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6344
                      #6
                      Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                      Originally posted by EtienneSM
                      Disregard is a little too easy for overjoy imo. If anything, it'd be the easiest song in that course.
                      probably but I dunno who has passed disregard index except anobody, vertex and you, and anobody's pass was pushing it

                      (e.g. the sort of C/low B pass you could make on slidey keys but would be shit on a logitech)

                      a dan course is the sort of thing where you should be able to high B / low A the songs at minimum

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                        • EtienneSM
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1724
                          #7
                          Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                          Well for the 4k overjoy courses on osu that Eze came up with, the only people that have passed (Hit the qualifying score) the overjoy course are Stian and I, so it's kind of normal that only very few people would be capable of doing the Overjoy course. Rather than based on passing, I'm probably going to base it off of a certain score (90% DP perhaps?) Maybe 85 depending on the course.

                          We're probably going to need a separate course for Vertex considering he's tiers even above me in index lol.
                          Last edited by EtienneSM; 05-31-2015, 10:08 AM.
                          Quality quotes:

                          Originally posted by KgZ
                          enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                          Originally posted by kommisar
                          nps is still a better idea for ratings
                          Originally posted by klimtkiller
                          there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                          Originally posted by Rapta
                          My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                            • Arch0wl
                              Banned
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 6344
                              #8
                              Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                              trust me you won't need a separate course for index I'm making Vertex^2 (For Vertex) and it's gonna be as bullshit as it sounds like

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                                • Arch0wl
                                  Banned
                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 6344
                                  #9
                                  Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                  Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
                                  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1381977525
                                  so just to be 100% clear to go up in division you need to have AA'ed about four songs in that division, right

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                                    • choof
                                      Banned
                                      FFR Simfile Author
                                      • Nov 2013
                                      • 8563
                                      #10
                                      Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                      lets just convert the kaiden charts to 4k

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                                        • Ziemniax
                                          FFR Player
                                          • Feb 2014
                                          • 169
                                          #11
                                          Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                          What about sprindex, would that mean that getting tier x on sprindex would be tier x-1 on index? Considering Vertex is better than me with 2x less fingers and I'm already Overjoy considering your example. Same with Aoreo.
                                          Also I can help with that since I got some index/sprindex knowledge.
                                          Last edited by Ziemniax; 05-31-2015, 03:03 PM.

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                                          https://www.mediafire.com/?whqcjgmx129tme0 SPREAD THE INDEX OUT NOW

                                          I hate arguing about my playstyle.

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                                            • Guest15937
                                              One-handed elite
                                              • May 2008
                                              • 1464
                                              #12
                                              Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                              Don't forget us
                                              The renegade has betrayed me.

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                                                • EtienneSM
                                                  FFR Player
                                                  • Jan 2013
                                                  • 1724
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                                  Originally posted by Ziemniax
                                                  What about sprindex, would that mean that getting tier x on sprindex would be tier x-1 on index? Considering Vertex is better than me with 2x less fingers and I'm already Overjoy considering your example. Same with Aoreo.
                                                  Also I can help with that since I got some index/sprindex knowledge.
                                                  The sprindex one would be considerably harder, given that sprindex requires much less effort in your forearms than index, making stamina way easier and since you're using more fingers you're able to tolerate higher BPM's. Currently coming up with a list now for Kaiden and Overjoy, hopefully it doesn't turn out too ridiculous lol.
                                                  Last edited by EtienneSM; 06-1-2015, 01:03 PM.
                                                  Quality quotes:

                                                  Originally posted by KgZ
                                                  enjoy having every guy ask if they can get some love on their weiner
                                                  Originally posted by Izzy
                                                  I also like the nps scale. The standard ITG scale for harder files is blown out of proportion and no longer makes sense.
                                                  Originally posted by kommisar
                                                  nps is still a better idea for ratings
                                                  Originally posted by klimtkiller
                                                  there is 1 tip for people going to college. When you're in college, you'll be 16, which is the age where (where i live) you can get laid lawfully. basically, get laid asap when they look the best.
                                                  Originally posted by Rapta
                                                  My logic is that the brain processes in 60 FPS so I play 60 FPS.

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                                                    • Sidek
                                                      FFR Player
                                                      • Nov 2010
                                                      • 777
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                                      when you said spread kaiden you are refering to only BMS converts to stepmania?

                                                      Bye.

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                                                        • Arch0wl
                                                          Banned
                                                          FFR Simfile Author
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 6344
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Let's make Spread Kaiden and Index Kaiden tiers

                                                          Originally posted by Sidek
                                                          when you said spread kaiden you are refering to only BMS converts to stepmania?
                                                          I can understand the mixup but nah, I'm referring to an equivalent kind of kaiden ranking for Stepmania -- a set of songs you'd have to pass with a good score to be an elite player, basically

                                                          about 4k people can do the IIDX kaiden course (I think -- don't quote me on this) and about 250-300 people can do the BMS kaiden course, and about 7 people can do the overjoy course (but about 3,000 people can do the equivalent of IIDX kaiden on BMS)

                                                          so a kaiden course for sm would be similarly selective/elite

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