can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

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  • Zapmeister
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2012
    • 466
    #1

    can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

    d3 players are allowed to make brag board threads, right?

    new best non-mash fc (difficulty 77)

    on ffr i believe that if it says "good" it should be a good thing because that's why you called it a "good", right? if goods weren't meant to be a good thing then you wouldn't have called them "good" you'd call them "bad", and similarly instead of "average", you'd call them "terrible". also when you get a perfect, you don't jump up in exhilarated euphoria, but you just move on, so you should call them "average" or something. it sort of feels like the game is being snarkily sarcastic every time i get a "good" and then be told it isn't really a good thing

    so by my reckoning this should be an AAA, right?




    Theorem: If you have a large enough number of monkeys, and a large enough number of computer keyboards, one of them will sight-read AAA death piano on stealth. And the ffr community will forever worship it. Proof Example

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    • ChaosBolt
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2014
      • 119
      #2
      Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

      ruins any attempt of getting an AAA.

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        • ItsOnlyDanO
          Stuck in the past
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2013
          • 1168
          #3
          Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

          Its the same in all rhythm games, it just they have to differentiate the judging in some way.
          Ghosts appear and fade away.......

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            • Rapta
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              • Dec 2010
              • 1948
              #4
              Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

              If you don't do better than perfect, you can't get a AAA.
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                • Funnygurl555
                  T-Force's Rival
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1865
                  #5
                  Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                  nice FC. that's really clean too
                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  is funny eaman?
                  Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
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                    • DossarLX ODI
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 14999
                      #6
                      Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                      Goods aren't Perfect. However, Perfect should be better than Amazing if you go by literal definitions.

                      Amazing could be seen as Flawless instead so it makes more sense. It's just a way of differentiating judgments like previously mentioned -- there are two late good windows and one early good window, while perfect is within 1 frame of the note on each side.
                      Originally posted by hi19hi19
                      oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • Zapmeister
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 466
                          #7
                          Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                          wasn't what i meant. i get that it's a way of differentiating between judgements, which is totally necessary in a game like this. it's the names that i was trying to point out - basically the irony of the situation between when the game tells you that you got a perfect/good/average/miss and the way you actually think of it, which is more like "average/bad/terrible/cataclysmic", is something i don't completely understand why it happens. also i'm pretty bad at not getting goods everywhere even in easy bits of songs, so i like to make myself delusional by thinking that they're actually a good thing because of the name

                          Theorem: If you have a large enough number of monkeys, and a large enough number of computer keyboards, one of them will sight-read AAA death piano on stealth. And the ffr community will forever worship it. Proof Example

                          ask me anything here

                          mashed FCs: 329

                          r1: 5
                          r2: 4
                          r3: 6
                          r4: 8
                          r5: 3
                          r6: 5
                          r7: 15
                          final position: 4th

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                            • gold stinger
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6428
                              #8
                              I think you should play around with your judge setting a bit if you're getting that many perfects and goods rather than amazings.

                              also if your score is a AAA, then everyone in D6 has a AAA except _Zenith_.
                              Last edited by Zageron; 11-1-2014, 04:06 PM. Reason: double
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              butts.


                              - Tosh 2014






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                                • RB_Spirit
                                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                                  • Jul 2009
                                  • 681
                                  #9
                                  Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                  Nice AAA, keep up the "good" work!
                                  Originally posted by Callipygian
                                  There's always some issue you can find with the exact terminology of a game. In fact, let me here make a case that the current system has racist undertones:
                                  Blackflags are worse than whiteflags and AAA's are indicated as yellow in R^3, suggesting that a perfect score is Asian.

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                                    • Tim Allen
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                                      • Jul 2013
                                      • 1129
                                      #10
                                      Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                      incredible score mate best of season to you lad

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                                        • Fantasticone
                                          D7 Elite Keymasher
                                          • Aug 2006
                                          • 6003
                                          #11
                                          Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                          Goods are good though, but perfect is better.

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                                            • Xiz
                                              TWG Chaos
                                              FFR Simfile Author
                                              • Feb 2012
                                              • 3399
                                              #12
                                              Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                              Real champions go for only Amazings, no perfects.


                                              ...this just in. I'm not a champion.
                                              Last edited by Xiz; 11-1-2014, 01:14 PM.

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                                                • AutotelicBrown
                                                  Under the scarlet moon
                                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                                  • Jan 2014
                                                  • 923
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                                  Originally posted by Zapmeister
                                                  basically the irony of the situation between when the game tells you that you got a perfect/good/average/miss and the way you actually think of it, which is more like "average/bad/terrible/cataclysmic
                                                  Considering in-game mechanics, you do get points for getting 'goods' and there isn't any negative effect like breaking combo. How that can be seen as 'bad'?

                                                  It is only the nature of competition - playing optimally - that makes anything less than perfect look negative in comparison, but it is not an inconsistency within the game itself and more of a community perception thing.
                                                  Last edited by AutotelicBrown; 11-1-2014, 01:43 PM.
                                                  Play my files

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                                                    • Wayward Vagabond
                                                      Confirmed Heartbreaker
                                                      FFR Simfile Author
                                                      • Jul 2012
                                                      • 5866
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                                      Amazing->very nice
                                                      perfect->nice
                                                      good->decent
                                                      average->ok
                                                      miss->bad
                                                      boo->uh

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                                                        • klimtkiller
                                                          D4
                                                          FFR Simfile Author
                                                          • Jun 2011
                                                          • 308
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: can someone explain to me why "goods" are not a good thing in ffr

                                                          it is good, but it's not perfect people trying to be perfect don't want goods. after playing a game for years, people don't just want to be "good" at it.
                                                          Originally posted by IwasAsquidOnce
                                                          Fantasticone I love your name. The name i hate the most is Klimtkiller, cuz I read it as like, climpt - killer, and climpt is just a gross sound, like an STD or something. Klimt

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