TWG CIII: Postgame

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I'll make my player comments in a bit... but what I can't forget about this game:


"Oh, two blues revealed? MIGHT AS WELL LYNCH XIZ THEN"

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Oh hey, the game is over.

So yeah, the wolves had a shutout. Very good game wolves. Shoutouts to RSD for making an exciting moment happen in this TWG.

Wow, what's this suppose to mean? You wanna fite Silvuh?

I'll take away those eggs, gra-gra!

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Lots of lucky breaks for us, not gonna lie. To start off, I'll give a rundown of some of our motivations throughout the game.

First off, I definitely was afraid of "getting Manti'd", as cedolad put it, and that was the motivation behind the first kill.

After looking through the roles, I didn't think we had a chance in this game. One super guardian-seer, one vigi-seer, one roleblocker-guardian, and one human with extra information plus 2 nights immunity. Since I figured death was inevitable and that we would get seered eventually, I tried to bait the enforcer to seer me night 2. The plan was for me to do some super sketchy voting at the last second to kill someone, after which RiotPolice (our MW) would call me out on it and hopefully be the first to call out what would end up being a confirmed wolf. But the way the votes turned out that wasn't possible.

Night 2 I had a hunch that YoshL was the inspector, he was asking some very specific role related questions pretty late in the game so that was enough to incriminate him in my eyes. It had nothing to do with him being suspicious of inactives, or any of his suspicions, I just thought he was the inspector.

Day 2 was pure luck. Riot was dead to rights until BDN showed up at the last minute, not only getting the focus off of RiotPolice but also getting the day extension wheels in motion. After the extension, charu's slip of the tongue is the only thing that saved RiotPolice from being lynched again.

Night 3 we did some process of elimination and figured out that between Krauthammer, T-Force, and dAnceguy there was the enforcer, Dr, and a human. We chose to seer dAnceguy because we suspected he was the human in the group, and seering the human would confirm who the two blues were, whereas seering one of the blues would still leave us wondering about the second. We also chose to kill Krauthammer because we figured between T-Force and him, Krauthammer would be more dangerous to us if he turned out to be the enforcer. He was already suspicious of pretty much our whole group (which no one brought up after we killed him, another lucky break) and I actually thought he had already seered one of us.

So with dAnceguy's seering coming back as green on night 3, we knew that both Krauthammer and T-force were blues. We then put a lot of pressure on T-Force the next day to get him to reveal, with the original plan being to have RiotPolice counterclaim if T-Force turned out to be the Dr. The idea was to tie up tokzic's seer for at least one day, and then kill him the next night since we knew he wouldn't be protected by the then dead enforcer.

Runescapedude ended up counterclaiming instead, which actually worked out pretty alright since he played the part better than RiotPolice thought he himself could, and he didn't get seered. Going into night 4, we thought we had all but won until this post, after which we thought we were fucked. We narrowed our options down to two courses of action. The first was to kill runescapedude in an attempt to throw off Tokzic's reads and possibly make him reconsider, and the second was to wolf the person with the least public suspicion and hope that someone places a safety vote before tokzic gets one of us lynched. We chose the second option, and it turned out for the best.

After that it was just up to the RNG.

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Personally, actually... I don't know since Tokzic never said he knew it was you four. Maybe, just maybe killing RSD would've caused an uproar and thus have the town lynch T-Force, but we can only speculate what would've happen, huh?

I think wih this course of action, you guys could've made away with the RNG.

In either case, it seems like you guys were riding with luck on this one, huh? No casualties on your part too, so that's brownie points.

You did a good job pnt for being not even questioned or on anyone's list.

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Oh yeah, and this is my third game, and I have not won a single one yet. G to the G man. 0-3 for me, wow.

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fuck fuck stupid stupid stupid wow cmon bdnbdnbdn

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Oh yeah, but in future games, can you guys not decide who to lynch in the final minutes of a phase? I'm guilty of this because me going to BDN, but who could blame me? Suddenly a post that just made me question him and made me go "Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh?"

...I have to ask since that was a consistent thing it felt like, wolves, were you using the last minute pushes to your advantage and wanted them to happen?

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Day starts from now on please.

Night 1 wolvings suck. Was 3/4 at the end before the rushvote.

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Okay, just a few comments about everyone:


1. Krauthammer - Darn, should have listened to you more. We were kinda on the same page but I didn't even really consider you into the picture. Nice job staying focused and on track though
2. YoshL - I love fighting with you. It's fun. <3 haha
3. DarkManticoreX2 - RIP never got to really play w/ ya haha
4. Brilliant Dynamite Neon Screw you, you killed me when I was so close to killing mellon haha
5. runescapedude1126 Hats off to you man. Really, hats off. I had 3 of the wolves in the palm of my hand and you just pulled a 180 on me. That counterclaim really really messed me up. Props.
6. thesunfan Stop thinking like me lol
8. jwcgator Yeah you kinda were afk I don't know what to say about you haha.
9.Charu Sorry snivy, my bad for killing you. Bad bad choice on my part.
10. dAnceguy117 Dude you confused me so hard this game haha. I didn't get you. Your gonna be really weird when you are a wolf, I can't wait to see it.
11. DragonIIDX Sorry you didn't get to play more I hope you keep playing though!!
12. Tokzic If only you listened to me.......
13. mellonxcollie If only anyone listened to me about you.... hahaha. So close, yet soooo far. Well done.
14. T-Force for a first game, you really played well. I really hope you play more!
15. pntballa18 Big props to you. Like, you fell off the radar soooooooo haaarrrrddddd. I don't know how I really missed you. Woops. Nicely done.
16. Riotpolice Well deserved win. You played flawless. I mean, we almost caught you, but anything can happen this game. I wont be so light on you next time :P

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Kinda, I guess. Day 1 was the only day I actively tried to change the result last minute, and that was to get the enforcer to seer me. But that didn't work out as planned. Day two benefited us obviously because it was our guy who was saved by the last minute switch. Day 3 I switched last minute because Tokzic asked us to, and it didn't really affect us. Although looking back this could've been used against us to narrow down the remaining wolves, so that probably wasn't a smart idea.

Which players did you have pinned down, and what gave it away?

EDIT:

I'm personally going to start more seriously considering the balance of a game when looking at the host signup thread. I'm guilty of not even considering it and just voting for the game that seems more fun. It was an unpleasant surprise when I got my role and for the first time considered how much this game tipped in the human's favor. I don't want to surprised like that anymore, so I'll definitely give my input on the game's balance in host signup threads from now on.

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great game, everyone!

- pntballa, Raeko, Riotpolice, and runescape, I think you all played great. each of you did things individually which gave you the edge. nice planning behind the scenes as well.

- so many posts! it's really cool to see such high levels of activity and interest. interestingly enough, I think we may have crossed the threshold here, where the sheer number of posts made actually helped the wolves to an extent. important posts were buried by other posts.

- we haven't played many games without cardflipping lately. I don't know about any of the other townies, but I don't think I was quite ready to adapt. I was looking for a few things I shouldn't have been as concerned about, and I ignored a few things I should have picked up on. it'll be interesting to see how the community continues to develop.

- the TWG Skype group threatens the integrity of thread-only games. I thought we did a good job of avoiding discussion about the game, but it came up once or twice. some of the messages affected my reads (mostly in my favor). this issue ought to be addressed before the next game.

- thanks to Silvuh for hosting! probably one of the best-hosted games I've played in. no real flubs, and vote tallies aplenty. I'm a slacker and haven't been reading the story. doing that now!



awwww I tried to drop a couple of PR tells early, but I definitely lost focus on that at some point. good eye, wolves.

AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! jk I think you've come incredibly far since your first game. if town had sheeped your Riot read, this game may have been very different. that W will come soon.

the above quote might be tongue-in-cheek but I'd like to nip this in the bud. please don't do this. humans make mistakes. wolves make mistakes. players learn from mistakes and improve and make our community more exciting UNLESS we deride each other for each error made.

I think it's been a long time since this sort of endgame situation has arisen, where a human doesn't realize that an errant vote will lead to wolves quickly voting for the win. lesson learned for everyone!

late decisions from the town have become a habit here, it seems. I think it's poor town play. the trend will shift if and when enough players realize this and make a concerted effort to correct it over the course of a few games.

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i would like to fully clarify that i'm not trying to like insult anyone, it's more of a "nooooooooooooooooooooooooo" tone rather than "holy shit you're a bad player"

(sorry)

just a tiny bit salty that i had to watch, but ah well. gratz riot, successful first game indeed, really hope to see everyone make re-appearances in more games~

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To those of you who died this game: did you continue to follow along afterwards?

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Wow before I even start this post, I just want to thank you guys for hosting and playing such an excellent game. I really don't have any words in my mouth right now except for thank you. It was an honor to play with you guys in my first game, truly and from the bottom of my heart.

Okay, so starting out:

There's really not going to be much of a postgame in this thread because we already pretty much discussed the postgame in the chat lol.

With that being said:
Thank you guys. Xiz, you'll see me in future games. Charu, you should have stood on my balls and crushed them with steel-toed boots when you had the chance. I'll take that to my grave, you WILL see me in future games. I want to thank the veteran players on my team for helping me out as the newbie MW(lol is it even legal to say stuff like "Newbie MW"?!) I've learned so much through this game, how to use logic and manipulate people. I had more fun than I would have even imagined in a forum game. I will continue to learn how to play this game better and also just have fun with you guys. You made this game fun, and I want to thank you all for that. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. There's no words to describe this intense and scheming game except for a 3 letter word: TWG.

Eat this non-van believers:
hulu.com/watch/4183

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I would think if not for the extended time, something completely different would've happened. Possibly a no-lynch and all that good jazz. I'm thinking that could've been very benificial for the town to be honest while we gather our thoughts after the night and see who the wolves would kill, but once again, can only speculate what could've been, haha.

Oh, and Xiz, no worries, bro. But my goodness, I think every game from now on I'm going to just automatically put you in orange no matter what and if RSD plays another one, I kind of want him seer'd like... ASAP, lol.

I sure as hell kept up still. I wasn't very satisified about my death and was really rooting for the humans. Too bad it just didn't work out.

I'll have you know I won't lay off you next time, I hope you know this. The only reason I stopped was literally because of a similar scenario with me in my first game. A misunderstood human, so to speak. I was thinking that's what you were doing since you were new.

Heh... playing the noob card, ah well, just know it won't work next time, dohoho.