The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

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  • Reincarnate
    x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
    • Nov 2010
    • 6332

    #1

    The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

    ITT people discuss strategies/difficulties/approaches/etc.

    I really don't know why more people aren't absolutely fascinated with optimizing this file. It's a very interesting, strategic challenge -- not merely a "tough song." To me, it's like a puzzle to figure out; one of the few files where you can take advantage of really weird approaches at almost every part. Death Piano commands a very broad set of skills and that makes it one of the more intriguing files in the game, IMO.

    My hope is that people actually take the time to peel this song apart and realize that it's not as tough as they think. I want to see some srs score boosts.

    Too many people are just blowing through DP with the same old approach they use for every other file, and are totally missing all the cool shit they could be having fun with in terms of optimization. To be clear, your standard approach isn't optimal. You have to switch between several strategies the entire way through (at least I did) to AAA it or at least come near to the AAA. Luckily, most transitions are easy to make and the strategies themselves are really interesting.

    I urge you all to approach the chart with a different perspective. Look at it as a multi-part puzzle instead.
    Last edited by Reincarnate; 03-22-2012, 10:07 AM.
  • Hateandhatred
    "The Quebec Steparatist."
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Feb 2011
    • 1974

    #2
    Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

    This is outta my league, but so true.

    Samurai has over 100 goods and Dossar has 8 cleans. Even if Dossar is still superior, the gap between these two doesn't reflect this at all.

    It could be really interesting to see people give it this kind of pre-treatment. Not like you're gonna sightread this.
    Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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    • bballa48
      FFR Veteran
      • Jan 2007
      • 1496

      #3
      Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

      Sadly there are very few people good enough to even consider playing this file seriously. For those that can, however, yes I agree. The file is pretty awesome.
      "Running is a mental sport...and we're all insane!"
      Learn to run when feeling the pain: then push harder.

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      • icontrolyourworld
        Enjoy life!
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2007
        • 4193

        #4
        Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

        This file combines my bad habits with skills I don't have xD
        Last edited by icontrolyourworld; 03-22-2012, 10:44 AM.

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        • Hakulyte
          the Haku
          • Jul 2005
          • 4596

          #5
          Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

          This song would probably be played a ton more if this game wasn't combo-based. That end trill is just cruel.

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          • Xx{Midnight}xX
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 8548

            #6
            Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

            Originally posted by Hakulyte
            This song would probably be played a ton more if this game wasn't combo-based. That end trill is just cruel.
            You'd be interested to know, that the ending trill is actually more like [2 3 2] [3 2 3] and not just a trill because of how it was converted.

            On second thought you probably knew that...
            Last edited by Xx{Midnight}xX; 03-22-2012, 11:07 AM.

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            • Reincarnate
              x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
              • Nov 2010
              • 6332

              #7
              Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

              it's one of the reasons I found isolation to be so useful

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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #8
                Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                My biggest problems with me and this chart isn't the chart's difficulty -- it's more so my inherent weaknesses get stressed really heavily.

                I have an idea on how I would play this on arrow keys only and switch styles like mad, but it would be beyond uncomfortable. I'm also not sure that I can handle all of the jumpgluts on arrow keys, too.

                (for the record, I've made it to the last jump gluts of the song with 17g, having 12g after the 24th trills.)

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                • Reincarnate
                  x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6332

                  #9
                  Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                  Have you considered other layouts like QSLP or something similar?

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                  • MaxGhost
                    FFR Veteran
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2141

                    #10
                    Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                    I can actually FC up until the jump jacks, and then I just die. I can't keep up with the speed of those jump jacks at all. I really do like the file though. I don't know why my best score is rank 980 though, that's just stupid.

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                    • popsicle_3000
                      Legendary Noob
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 4641

                      #11
                      Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                      Originally posted by bballa48
                      Sadly there are very few people good enough to even consider playing this file seriously.
                      this

                      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
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                      Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
                      one way to stream them all
                      Originally posted by Xiz
                      Right after sex, it skillboosted me by +10 levels from like a 35-45 about. (Which then 15 min's later I got really tired and couldn't play anymore)

                      But then my lady friend got pissed off I was playing FFR instead of playing her. Then for the rest of the night she played the 'Only want me for my body' card and I didn't get to sleep with blankets that night.
                      Originally posted by thesunfan
                      replacing ifitypedhisnameaslargeashisnamesuggests,iwouldgetbanned with theelongatedaustrocanadian3000 (pop).
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                      Title: Popsicle Three

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                      Originally posted by U.N. Owen
                      kjwkjw: "oh my god, Tosh. Post that in the thread."

                      @popsicle_3000:
                      Danger incoming
                      The popsicles are melting
                      Three thousand of them
                      Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
                      you got to ease the topic into some conversation and let it go from there

                      dynam0: man friend that was an intense sm session right?
                      friend: haha yeah you really nailed those patterns
                      dynam0: yeah man kind of like how gay dudes nail other gay dudes in the ass!
                      friend: hey bro can i tell you something
                      dynam0 yeah man whats up?
                      friend: hypothetically speaking would you care if i was bisexual or maybe even gay?
                      dynam0: bro we shower together after sm sessions all the time and i'll still shower with you even if you are gay or w/e thats your thing just dont try to ram my ass HAHAHA
                      friend: thanks man
                      dynam0: no problem man
                      Originally posted by One Winged Angel
                      pop takin' time out of playing irl Trauma Center to check in on his fiffer buds (mm)
                      Originally posted by Xiz
                      Well, Popsicle won every award this year so it was canceled.

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                      • DossarLX ODI
                        Batch Manager
                        Game Manager
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 14999

                        #12
                        You're right that the scoreboard is hilarious for the file. But there is a huge problem in this thread that all of you should realize (I'll leave it up to you guys this time)

                        ---

                        Also, if you want tips on Death Piano, it's good to put emphasis on certain things rather than approach it normally.

                        For example, the speedup minijack section in the middle. There's a 2 frame quad and [12] 16th that should be hit faster so you don't fall behind. I should do a guide for Death Piano sometime, I've AAAd the ending on video
                        Last edited by nois-or-e; 03-22-2012, 04:23 PM. Reason: merged accidental double due to post deletes ;D
                        Originally posted by hi19hi19
                        oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                        • Hateandhatred
                          "The Quebec Steparatist."
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 1974

                          #13
                          Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                          Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                          I should do a guide for Death Piano sometime, I've AAAd the ending on video
                          I get the feeling this would be your most ever appreciated work. Not that it would make me able to play Death Piano lmao, but I'm sure it would help the likes of me to learn to read and understand the higher tier's files.

                          Not only that, but anyone from the elite on here could make excellent use out of it. I'm sure that if you make a great guide about Death Piano, this song's scoreboard would get a drastic change.

                          At the very very least 10 people on here are able to reach sub 100 goods.

                          Interested in reading more about this, Dossar.
                          Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                          • TC_Halogen
                            Rhythm game specialist.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 19376

                            #14
                            Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                            Originally posted by Reincarnate
                            Have you considered other layouts like QSLP or something similar?
                            Concave/convex setups don't work well for me. I get confused very easily.

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                            • Plan_Bsk81127
                              snooches
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6420

                              #15
                              Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out)

                              I could get better scores on this song if I could jack/trill. lol

                              Even then those hands transitioning the jump jacks suckkkkk

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