TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

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  • leetic
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2020
    • 7

    #226
    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by Hakulyte
    I'd recommend voting outside of Weiss because this exists:

    "When the Vengeful Spirit is killed during the day by vote, the person they were voting for is also killed. If they were not voting for anyone upon death, then a random town player is killed instead."
    Good catch.

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    • MixMasterLar
      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Aug 2006
      • 5400

      #227
      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by Hakulyte
      I'd recommend voting outside of Weiss because this exists:

      "When the Vengeful Spirit is killed during the day by vote, the person they were voting for is also killed. If they were not voting for anyone upon death, then a random town player is killed instead."
      Again, rather this narrows down the pool early and not later

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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #228
        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

        Notice the "town player" and not just "player".

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        • mellon_collie
          FFR Player
          • May 2017
          • 156

          #229
          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          Again, rather this narrows down the pool early and not later
          what do you mean by this?

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          • Arapocalypse
            FFR Player
            • May 2021
            • 11

            #230
            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

            Okay here's where I'm currently at, tiers alphabetical:

            Arapocalypse

            Never voting today
            leetic - towny curiosity in general over the course of the day, not much else to say - just a lot of little moments added up!!

            MixMasterLar - already mentioned

            Likely just not voting today
            Bugkid - I think their response to the slip was perfectly fine, for what it's worth; bit towny, even!!! The "assuming every town is claiming vt" part does feel a bit ??? though? Another thing that pinged me a bit was actually the defense of me after MixMasterLar suspected me, just felt a little questionable because like... it feels like they're lacking a bit in town paranoia; that being said, I think when they've been actively posting here their posts do feel like they're flowing freely in a non-mafia agendaed waterfally manner, so ultimately just don't really want to vote them today, despite moving them between this tier and the below tier multiple times!!

            Hakulyte - was divided initially, but really think the way they've just gone after Bug feels very very towny!

            mellonxcollie - Considered moving them up, but I just... don't really feel it that strongly? If I'm wrong about any townread it's probably them - really really towny response to the perceived "slip" though!!!!

            Roundbox - A lot more lowkey, but I feel like all of the posts they've posted in the thread so far just feel relatively sane in a very towny manner? Feels very similar to the type of sorting that I tend to see in ivory tower-type playstyles!! Noting that yes they could just be mafia voice of reason here, but also just don't want to vote them today, comfy enough for now!!

            Everyone else
            Hateandhatred - Given that people say Hate doesn't have a propensity for taking that long to type up reactions, going to say they do seem a little frozen with regards to responses there!! Also, a lot of it does just feel like posting for the sake of posting where they seem to be reacting to mainly mechanical stuff and not like... actual reads? The focus they're coming from isn't particularly giving me "town looking for mafia" vibes, in short!!!

            Weiss

            I have Bug/Hateandhatred as not w/w for Bug voting Hate in a not-partnered manner, though... does mean that unless the last mafia is exactly Weiss, I'm wrong on at least one of my townreads!!






            (Not fully caught up as I was focusing on earlier, just getting this and a vote out for now though!!

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5400

              #231
              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

              Raeko if you're gonna walk away from the stance that Weiss is a bad vote then please go ahead and make a real vote now

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              • leetic
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2020
                • 7

                #232
                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                Again, rather this narrows down the pool early and not later
                Like it could kill the most consensusy townread player and give the wolves a huge advantage. Only a 1/9 chance sure but a 1/9 chance that would totally screw us over in many scenarios

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5400

                  #233
                  Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by mellon_collie
                  what do you mean by this?
                  Smaller list of players tend to help narrow down POE

                  Originally posted by Hakulyte
                  Notice the "town player" and not just "player".
                  ....I did not notice this. Ok it's fair to be hesitant but I think I still take that risk for previously mentioned reason

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                  • Arapocalypse
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2021
                    • 11

                    #234
                    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                    Okay here's where I'm currently at, tiers alphabetical:

                    Arapocalypse

                    Never voting today
                    leetic - towny curiosity in general over the course of the day, not much else to say - just a lot of little moments added up!!

                    MixMasterLar - already mentioned

                    Likely just not voting today
                    Bugkid
                    - I think their response to the slip was perfectly fine, for what it's worth; bit towny, even!!! The "assuming every town is claiming vt" part does feel a bit ??? though? Another thing that pinged me a bit was actually the defense of me after MixMasterLar suspected me, just felt a little questionable because like... it feels like they're lacking a bit in town paranoia; that being said, I think when they've been actively posting here their posts do feel like they're flowing freely in a non-mafia agendaed waterfally manner, so ultimately just don't really want to vote them today, despite moving them between this tier and the below tier multiple times!!

                    Hakulyte - was divided initially, but really think the way they've just gone after Bug feels very very towny!

                    mellonxcollie - Considered moving them up, but I just... don't really feel it that strongly? If I'm wrong about any townread it's probably them - really really towny response to the perceived "slip" though!!!!

                    Roundbox
                    - A lot more lowkey, but I feel like all of the posts they've posted in the thread so far just feel relatively sane in a very towny manner? Feels very similar to the type of sorting that I tend to see in ivory tower-type playstyles!! Noting that yes they could just be mafia voice of reason here, but also just don't want to vote them today, comfy enough for now!!

                    Everyone else
                    Hateandhatred - Given that people say Hate doesn't have a propensity for taking that long to type up reactions, going to say they do seem a little frozen with regards to responses there!! Also, a lot of it does just feel like posting for the sake of posting where they seem to be reacting to mainly mechanical stuff and not like... actual reads? The focus they're coming from isn't particularly giving me "town looking for mafia" vibes, in short!!!

                    Weiss


                    I have Bug/Hateandhatred as not w/w for Bug voting Hate in a not-partnered manner, though... does mean that unless the last mafia is exactly Weiss, I'm wrong on at least one of my townreads!!






                    (Not fully caught up as I was focusing on earlier, just getting this and a vote out for now though!!)

                    Also holy smokes I almost lost this entire post to be eaten by the mods ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! Hoping this goes through!!!!!

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                    • Arapocalypse
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2021
                      • 11

                      #235
                      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                      Hateandhatred

                      And I forgot to actually put the vote in, here we go though!!!!

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                      • Hakulyte
                        the Haku
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 4697

                        #236
                        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        ....I did not notice this. Ok it's fair to be hesitant but I think I still take that risk for previously mentioned reason
                        What's funny is that, early game, Arapocalypse mentioned everyone self-voting as a strat and this would be catastrophic with this in mind. xd

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5400

                          #237
                          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                          Originally posted by leetic
                          Like it could kill the most consensusy townread player and give the wolves a huge advantage. Only a 1/9 chance sure but a 1/9 chance that would totally screw us over in many scenarios
                          Ok be honest

                          It's D0

                          Do we really have a strong consensus town read? Truly?

                          Later on we will which is why we shouldn't wait to deal with inactivity later

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                          • Hateandhatred
                            "The Quebec Steparatist."
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1974

                            #238
                            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                            Dinner done. I'm now going to be around until EOD
                            Forgot where I put my old sig lol

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                            • mellon_collie
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2017
                              • 156

                              #239
                              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                              I really don't think we can afford to lose a random town player, I agree the 1/9 chance isn't worth it

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                              • leetic
                                FFR Player
                                • Apr 2020
                                • 7

                                #240
                                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by Hateandhatred
                                Dinner done. I'm now going to be around until EOD
                                You really better step up your effort here, you have three votes

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