TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

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  • leetic
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2020
    • 7

    #31
    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

    Originally posted by mellonxcollie
    OMG I DIDNT REALIZE THIS WAS ACTUALLY STARTING WOOOO HI

    I was about to go to bed but I guess *cracks beer*

    Definitely not going to like get into all this shit y'all are talking about tho like straight up
    I think having a solid mechanical plan would really increase town's chance of winning here, but of course reads are super important here too. Do you have any thoughts on the setup at all?

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    • mellon_collie
      FFR Player
      • May 2017
      • 156

      #32
      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

      Originally posted by leetic
      I think having a solid mechanical plan would really increase town's chance of winning here, but of course reads are super important here too. Do you have any thoughts on the setup at all?
      I think reads are more important to start when we have nothing to go off. Once we have a few flips and information to build upon then discussing mechanics becomes more useful

      If we start making plans too early it usually ends up with building assumptions off assumptions and can easily go in the wrong direction

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      • mellon_collie
        FFR Player
        • May 2017
        • 156

        #33
        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

        sorry I switched accounts, I forgot to since I haven't played it so long

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        • leetic
          FFR Player
          • Apr 2020
          • 7

          #34
          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

          Originally posted by mellon_collie
          I think reads are more important to start when we have nothing to go off. Once we have a few flips and information to build upon then discussing mechanics becomes more useful

          If we start making plans too early it usually ends up with building assumptions off assumptions and can easily go in the wrong direction
          It's an open setup, all the information is known except for who has what exactly. It's the perfect time to lay things out before mistakes are made. But maybe I'm just too used to NSM's way of doing things

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          • Hakulyte
            the Haku
            • Jul 2005
            • 4697

            #35
            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

            Originally posted by leetic
            It's an open setup, all the information is known except for who has what exactly. It's the perfect time to lay things out before mistakes are made. But maybe I'm just too used to NSM's way of doing things
            Here, I'm more used to see people keep things semi vague so town have just enough info to lean toward the right direction while blues can do their own thing in peace without getting too much attention.
            When things are too clear strategically wise, town tend to just lose all their blues in a row because wolves can understand better where to use their night actions.

            Withholding information can be good in that context.

            tldr; The point of not laying out information is to make it more difficult to find the blues.

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            • leetic
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2020
              • 7

              #36
              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              Here, I'm more used to see people keep things semi vague so town have just enough info to lean toward the right direction while blues can do their own thing in peace without getting too much attention.
              When things are too clear strategically wise, town tend to just lose all their blues in a row because wolves can understand better where to use their night actions.

              Withholding information can be good in that context.

              tldr; The point of not laying out information is to make it more difficult to find the blues.
              Wolves' biggest advantage over town in setups like these is coordination, and it seems foolish to extend the gap even further. This game also may not even last to D3 and the Freikugel is realistically only getting two shots off, as I pointed out earlier. Nevertheless, enough people have posted that you should find something to gravitate to.

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              • leetic
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2020
                • 7

                #37
                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                Also, I'm probably going to bed now. There better be a whole page of posts by the time I wake up in the morning

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                • bugkid666
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 14

                  #38
                  Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                  OMG I DIDNT REALIZE THIS WAS ACTUALLY STARTING WOOOO HI

                  I was about to go to bed but I guess *cracks beer*

                  Definitely not going to like get into all this shit y'all are talking about tho like straight up
                  these mfs out here doing MATH like what

                  Originally posted by FreezinIce
                  me being partners with the wolf fruit vendor is also hilarious
                  Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                  IM ON RED LOBSTER PUBLIC WIFI

                  they/them

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                  • bugkid666
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 14

                    #39
                    Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                    i intend on fulling reading this thread tomorrow around noon server time but i'm here don't fret, i just go to bed early

                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    me being partners with the wolf fruit vendor is also hilarious
                    Originally posted by mellonxcollie
                    IM ON RED LOBSTER PUBLIC WIFI

                    they/them

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5400

                      #40
                      Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                      Did not expect so much serious chat in here so soon, was sorta looking forward to shit posting lol

                      Let's get the easy observation out of the way: Haku's town

                      As far as roles goes, I think I can agree that town being aggressive early is much better then town being even proactive later because we can still make mistakes at this juncture; I've played too many games were blues sat on Killer Powers until the end and let bias-induced anger triggers them to lose the game.

                      I do my my own bias in that I would target the least active first, though, but if anyone needs me to prach that gospel again I'm sure you'll ask me and I'll type it all up later. Or go read literally any game I've ever been in since 2019.

                      Let's see

                      Haku seems like his town game
                      Leetic seems alright, he could make those post as wolf but I feel good leaning town
                      I'm garbage at reading Raeko but nothing seems out of the ordinary for her town game
                      I'll just leave Ara and Bug at gray for now

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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5400

                        #41
                        Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                        I wanna set some expectations

                        I work at a credit union now. I have to get up at 5PM-ish server time to go to work at the moment, then switching to a slightly later schedule in March

                        I am not making many, if any, EODs at 11PM

                        I was gonna say that today would be an exception since I am off the weekend but EOD isn't today so lolololol

                        Also I can no longer play at work because my job is too dependent on me actually engaging people in real time now, so my apologies if you were expecting the old volume posting Lar.

                        A lot has changed in my life over the last year or two. The positive change is that I know love with my fianceé Alanna, and I have never known someone who completes me in the way she does. The not positive changes can wait for another post, though. I'm healthy, so I suppose I shouldn't complain, but well.....

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                        • MixMasterLar
                          Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5400

                          #42
                          Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                          Now live changed to know love

                          That was a very touching change, auto-correct, but it still makes me sound drunk

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5400

                            #43
                            Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                            And no I am not counting these as my three post minimum, this is all one post. And I will be judging your post in the same manner when it's time to talk about inactives later

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                            • mellon_collie
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2017
                              • 156

                              #44
                              Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                              what's up party people

                              Yeah I was not expecting such serious chat so early either. not gonna lie it was WAY too late for me to read all of that and comprehend it last night but now that it's morning and I've read it I gotta say I mostly agree with Haku in post #19

                              I think let the blues do their own thing and lets not worry about it too much and potentially influence them. They are town and I believe in them to do the right thing!!!

                              and of course my dog pooped on the floor as I'm making this post lololol

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                              • mellon_collie
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2017
                                • 156

                                #45
                                Re: TWG Turbo 37: Der Freischütz [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                                Now live changed to know love

                                That was a very touching change, auto-correct, but it still makes me sound drunk
                                ITS DESTINY IT'S L O V E

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