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  • Hakulyte
    the Haku
    • Jul 2005
    • 4697

    #106
    Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

    Originally posted by Gradiant
    If nighttalk being off is listed as one of the mechanics for the game, it's a rule.
    I guess I didn't word myself properly.

    What happens EoD is usually "Stop Posting" -> tallying votes from that post -> locking the thread for starting nightphase etc.

    I'm suggesting to directly lock the thread and then tally votes as usual which would remove the danger of posting too late and being possibly modkilled for it.

    The same could happen with nighttalk on, the only difference is that the thread would be unlocked the moment the host is done posting flips.

    It shouldn't be particularly hard to time, you can just look at the computer clock and click the moment it reaches the time limit.

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    • YoshL
      Celestial Harbor
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Aug 2008
      • 6156

      #107
      Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

      you should not be making posts past the end of the phase regardless, and the thread being locked is more for prevention of people who actually forget nighttalk is off.

      The mod locking the thread will not have perfect timing and still may cut off people who would have actually had a valid post. If the mod is a little late, then that defeats the purpose of your locking procedure, because it allows posts to slip through that may be after the phase end.

      You normally do not get modkilled for a post that was submitted just a tiny bit too late. Even then, it's usually a rush vote, and at that point, the vote is just nullified.

      If you're posting like 1-2 minutes after the day end, the player is in complete fault as they did not look at their clock before clicking post. "not refreshing" is not an excuse for that.


      Originally posted by Charu
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      • Hakulyte
        the Haku
        • Jul 2005
        • 4697

        #108
        Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

        Ah thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense. I didn't consider it that way.

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        • thesunfan
          Role Tide
          Sectional Moderator
          • May 2011
          • 10859

          #109
          Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

          my big problem with all of this is that locking threads during the night phase will usually have to be unlocked so the mod can post the flips, which will mean there is still a window, no matter how small, for people to post.

          Instas also throw things off sometimes

          That and its not timed perfectly. Personally, my clock is not synced perfectly with FFRs, and I'm not sure how to sync it or how long it would stay perfectly synced, etc.

          It seems the vast majority of people are in favor of locking threads at night if nighttalk is off and the mod wants the thread to be locked so, if I don't see some more people talk about never wanting this to be the case, I'll at least see how possible it is for me to do this.
          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
          Originally posted by XelNya
          I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
          Originally posted by star-crossed
          (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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          • thesunfan
            Role Tide
            Sectional Moderator
            • May 2011
            • 10859

            #110
            Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

            my big problem with all of this is that locking threads during the night phase will usually have to be unlocked so the mod can post the flips, which will mean there is still a window, no matter how small, for people to post.

            Instas also throw things off sometimes

            That and its not timed perfectly. Personally, my clock is not synced perfectly with FFRs, and I'm not sure how to sync it or how long it would stay perfectly synced, etc.

            It seems the vast majority of people are in favor of locking threads at night if nighttalk is off and the mod wants the thread to be locked so, if I don't see some more people talk about never wanting this to be the case, I'll at least see how possible it is for me to do this.
            Originally posted by Vendetta21
            Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
            Originally posted by XelNya
            I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
            Originally posted by star-crossed
            (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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            • Gradiant
              FFR's Resident Trashpanda
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Sep 2012
              • 1100

              #111
              Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

              Originally posted by thesunfan
              It seems the vast majority of people are in favor of locking threads at night if nighttalk is off and the mod wants the thread to be locked so, if I don't see some more people talk about never wanting this to be the case, I'll at least see how possible it is for me to do this.
              Only if the host really wants the thread to be locked in the nightphases if nighttalk is of, I'd say. I don't think there'd be a whole lot of hosts that'd absolutely want that to be done

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              • MixMasterLar
                Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Aug 2006
                • 5400

                #112
                Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                I think, because it does seem that hosts like to use an automated counter alot of the time, that [twgv] needs to just be the standard. I'm for [color][bold] not counting---I don't want a game where the counter missed a vote and then people call fouled.

                I don't think the "fake vote" argument is something that comes into play here enough to deter me from favoring only [twgv] vote.


                As for locking threads, I'm actually for not locking them. People should know the rules of the game and if they get modkilled by clearly not paying attention then so be it. I don't think we need to have our mods have to find the time to essentially babysit our players because they're afraid people can't refrain themselves from posting correctly, especially when they may not always be able to. Consistency is key and I'm in favor for one rule to rule to them all.



                Originally posted by XelNya
                I'm fine on the [twgv] tag being the official voting method but also denote that typos should count because sometimes you just DO NOT have time to proofread or you do and gloss over a simple but stupid typo.
                Disagree for a couple of reasons.

                1 If the host is using a counter it's very depended on if the host notices in time. If the host doesn't, that compromises the game. If the host happens to notice it that's fine bit that's extra work you're having them do on top of running the game.

                2 If you're trying to pull some sneaky shit at the end of the game and mess up because of timing on your part, it should just be considered a part of the game like a slip or dumbtell.
                Plus you should have your vote well in time to make another post if there is a typo, and if you can't be bothered to arrive at EoD timely enough to legit cast your vote then oops you better stop sucking at the game son. Making a rule that puts any type of burden on the host (no matter how small) when the root cause is the player probably isn't playing the game correctly is not something I care to support.

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                • YoshL
                  Celestial Harbor
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6156

                  #113
                  Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                  Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                  1 If the host is using a counter it's very depended on if the host notices in time. If the host doesn't, that compromises the game. If the host happens to notice it that's fine bit that's extra work you're having them do on top of running the game.

                  2 If you're trying to pull some sneaky shit at the end of the game and mess up because of timing on your part, it should just be considered a part of the game like a slip or dumbtell.
                  Plus you should have your vote well in time to make another post if there is a typo, and if you can't be bothered to arrive at EoD timely enough to legit cast your vote then oops you better stop sucking at the game son. Making a rule that puts any type of burden on the host (no matter how small) when the root cause is the player probably isn't playing the game correctly is not something I care to support.
                  ..
                  Originally posted by YoshL
                  votes need to be bolded and red. This can be achieved easily with the [twgv] tag. The text should allow the host to understand without question or assumptions exactly who you're voting for.


                  Originally posted by Charu
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                  • MixMasterLar
                    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 5400

                    #114
                    Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                    Does the counter that is used around here count [color][bold]? I was under the impression that it only counted what was wrapped in [twgv]



                    EDIT: Actually you're quoting me when I was referring to typos so I think I understand what you are trying to say to me less.
                    Last edited by MixMasterLar; 10-28-2016, 09:56 PM.

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                    • YoshL
                      Celestial Harbor
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 6156

                      #115
                      Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                      what are you even arguing at this point

                      it makes it so easy. votes must be red and bold. this is easily done in [twgv] tags. host must unarguably understand who you're voting for. that's it.


                      Originally posted by Charu
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                      • MixMasterLar
                        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 5400

                        #116
                        Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                        Ok.

                        What if there is a typo that prevents the vote from being red and/or bold?

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                        • j-rodd123
                          End of the road
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3692

                          #117
                          Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                          That's exactly the point, intentionally adding a typo can be an easy way to angleshoot

                          Originally posted by FictionJunction
                          wow

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                          • Charu
                            Snivy! Dohoho!
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6207

                            #118
                            Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                            Then it doesn't count, silly.


                            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                            Had a very shiny nose
                            And if you ever saw it
                            You could even say it glows

                            All of the other Snivies
                            Used to laugh and call him names
                            They never let poor Charu
                            Join in any Snivy games

                            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                            • YoshL
                              Celestial Harbor
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 6156

                              #119
                              Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                              exactly. if you fuck up the tags and it comes out like [twgv[mml[/twgv]
                              it's not a vote

                              look, if you're intentionally trying to fuck with the voting system, you're subject to being modkilled. simple. voting is voting, not a point of contention based off of the fact that forum twg has a certain functionality to work properly.


                              Originally posted by Charu
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                              • AragakiAyase
                                Waifus
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 961

                                #120
                                Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

                                I don't see why this is a discussion, if you don't format it right then it doesn't count. This is like saying any sort of form should count even when not filled out correctly, the solution is that you discard the bad format and do it again so that there's no room for ambiguity. If someone fucks up their voting tags, then they can hopefully fix it, and if they don't then that's tough.

                                pikakirby123 reincarnated





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