Twelve Days of FFRmas: Song Discussions

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Anyone have a working offset for this? It seems to drift in and out of syncness..

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score of the fuccen YEAR

not even kidding

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obliterated

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3,000 notes in The games we played, completely choked on such a simple part.
I will AAA it >.>

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Bloop. My two cents to some of the things we discussed here.

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This is a bad assumption though, because you are making an assumption that VC files are "easy", when I guarantee you that a file past 17 in difficulty will be problematic for the users that aren't forum-goers (i.e. casual players). Casual players probably struggle to just handle 8th notes, let alone the other numerous patterns that you see once you simply push past old-scale 7s in difficulty.

I'd feel much more comfortable saying that an easy file is an old-scale 5 or lower, where the charts don't pose more than 8th notes, or a few slower 16ths. Considering that the old scale was out of 13 (and the files rated 13 can be counted on your hands and toes), there really should be a more even distribution of files that are 7 or lower. If we cut halfway into the 7s (at 30), there are only 401 files that are 30 or lower. That's more than 2 hard files for every easy file -- a very bad ratio. To make matters worse, many of these files are older and have some mis-rhythms/poor structure. With that being said, it's necessary to quote this:

If you think this is wrong, you need to rethink your idea of easy files. I very much agree with what people like Dossar/hi19 have said about easier files, and anyone who is a pad player will also agree with this -- files need to be about representing the song without being overly technical/correct. Do you really think a newer player is going to want to have to deal with ridiculously complex rhythms just because a song calls for it? Easier/casual players aren't going to care about a chart being "technically perfect", they're going to care about a chart that they stand a chance at doing. Many easier charts in rhythm games avoid the use of complex rhythms, even when a song calls for it. IIDX, Pop'n, DDR, ITG, PIU, ReRave, Technika, keyboardmania, GuitarFreaks, DrumMania, and hell, even mainstream games like Rock Band/Guitar Hero avoid the use of complex structures.

If you want to make an effective easy file, chart the song by representing it, not by keysounding it and unlayering everything.

EDIT: oh hey, looks like iironiic had something to say too, haha

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If you add up all the 1-7's on the other difficulty level you'll stilll have a HELL of a lot more then the 77-90's on the current scale.... Think about it ...

It's better to leverage out everything evenly then distribute persay an easy/medium/hard/guru chart each week that way there is an even distribution of files being put in game. I'm sorry, but when I started going for avg. rank it was incomparable playing every single easy (for sake of argument 1-5 as aj said old scale) because there were a lot of them.

The game has to start addressing every single level of players instead of focusing on just one. And face it, go to your level ranks and add em up, you'll see there are much more easier files then hard ones.

Let alone 1-40 on new scale takes up ALMOST half the entire page. Rather 77-90's take up maybe 1/8.

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There are more charts rated 1-10 in difficulty (on the 99 point scale) in game than charts rated 76+ btw

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lol

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Case closed.

More hard files please.

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fixed

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I can't play that song until the offset is fixed. It messes me up too much...

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I can't wait to play this with good sync.

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Nope. I took a look at the swf and they're not using the same method I was.

Absolutely agreed, I've said this to some of my friends before. The people who play easy songs are not going to enjoy or learn from charts with perfectly synced grace notes, hands, tons of color notes, and a bpm change every arrow. That isn't a good easy chart, it's a chart that's boring for the people who play harder difficulties and too hard to read for the people who actually play that difficulty. We really need to release more easy charts that aren't slow-ass ddream'd piano charts.

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This is incredibly selfish. Maybe we should have an intentional outage of higher level files and cater only toward the slightly adept keysmashers and the casual players.


There are 142 files that are rated 1-10. 35 of these files are terrible legacy files which are more than likely problematic for learning as they don't have consistent step patterns that make them worthy of playing. In addition to this, there are 20 skill tokens that won't be accessible immediately. Finally, there are 9 purchased songs; this is problematic for people just starting the game.

64/142 of these files are either inaccessible, or terrible choices for a player. In addition to this, the sync of the remaining files can't be guaranteed considering how old they are, and casual/new players probably won't understand the offset function, nor will they care to use it.

Here's something else that I feel is very important to bring up: out of 142 of the files that are rated 10 or lower, only 9 have been released/stepped this year, and we likely won't see anymore due to the year coming to a close. That is a -serious- problem; how are players supposed to progress if there's nothing new for them to learn at this level?