purchased isn't broken anymore

**Breakdown16** · 07-13-2008, 08:17 PM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Dronak

P.S. -- Does not being broken also mean that we'll be able to buy the purchase songs in any order we want? I know that was a little annoying before, that I couldn't buy the cheapest or easiest songs first because I was given a specific subset of songs to choose from each time I went to purchase one.

Yes. The shop is fixed, and one can scroll through the song choices, making any song purchase.

**y0ttabyte** · 07-14-2008, 12:42 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Purchased songs need to be included in the random song list still.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-14-2008, 01:15 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

y0tta: it's on the list of fixes... should hopefully be done after we finalize the new purchased bug issues.

Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!

**Xx{Midday}xX** · 07-14-2008, 01:17 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!

The gambling was a pl0t. A diabolical pl0t.

**shadow 1800** · 07-14-2008, 01:19 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Tass makes me want to cry ;_;

**Silver_Brian** · 07-14-2008, 01:34 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

y0tta: it's on the list of fixes... should hopefully be done after we finalize the new purchased bug issues.

Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!

I'm really looking forward to this.

**jimerax** · 07-14-2008, 01:51 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

so 100+ songs could be thrown into this genre eventually.

**Xiaounlimited** · 07-14-2008, 01:55 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

That's going to **** over a lot of peoples' average ranks.

So now I have to whore FFR to play songs I could probably AAA in 1/50 the time it takes to get the credits. Great.

Guess I'll go wreck some tournaments for credits now, or something.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-14-2008, 02:53 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

that does raise the issue of whether purchased and secret should be part of normal levelrank or special levelrank.

hell, if i had to make a decision.... i'd say that the 2 should be combined back into 1, and tokens should count for your levelrank. it'd mess the new users up a bit, but they aren't playing every song to begin with. and i can deal with having a few extra threads on "where is such-and-such song"

**dean_machine** · 07-14-2008, 03:05 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Yeah, I think tokens should count towards levelrank stats, or just remove purchased and secret songs from the levelrank stats.

**Orange Dude** · 07-14-2008, 03:54 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!

Yes! Can't wait for this.
First time I read this I thought you had left out achievement tokens and I got a little frustrated. ha

Edit: So The new song is not playable anymore if you haven't purchased it, but also I'm hearing new background music? Anybody else getting the same thing?

**TheRapingDragon** · 07-14-2008, 04:00 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Sounds like a hell of a lot to end up implementing. I'm looking forward to it, if only to see how people react and to see how good FFR gets.

**Xx{Midday}xX** · 07-14-2008, 04:06 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Originally posted by Tasselfoot

hell, if i had to make a decision.... i'd say that the 2 should be combined back into 1, and tokens should count for your levelrank. it'd mess the new users up a bit, but they aren't playing every song to begin with. and i can deal with having a few extra threads on "where is such-and-such song"

+1

we can deal with those extra pestering threads for you. =)

**qqwref** · 07-14-2008, 04:39 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

500000? Oh geez, that's gonna take like a year. Sucks for us non-lucky folks who can't make money appear out of nowhere

Oh well, personally I've always gone towards purchased songs since they stay bought, so at least I can theoretically get those.

I don't think the normal and special levelranks should be combined together, for two reasons. First, it would just encourage cheating on riddle tokens, since people who wanted to decrease their average rank would have more of an incentive to get tokens the easy way rather than actually spending the time to solve all the puzzles and find them the legitimate way. Second, where would the subscriber songs go? You'd still need a second levelrank for subscribers to check their ranks on those songs, and it wouldn't make sense to put them on the normal levelrank because then non-subscribers would have a bunch of 0-score songs that they can't get rid of by any in-game means. So I think I'd prefer to keep the levelranks as they are.

**y0ttabyte** · 07-14-2008, 04:49 AM

Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

Yeah if things like 500k secret songs are introduced you may as well merge the ranks, since getting 500k credits is quite difficult (moreso than a lot of tokens). The only issue is things like vROFL and Oni scores will need to be cleaned up completely so they don't unfairly inflate people's average ranks.

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