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  • #61
    FFR Veteran
    Breakdown16
    • Sep 2007
    • 1938

    Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

    Originally posted by Dronak
    P.S. -- Does not being broken also mean that we'll be able to buy the purchase songs in any order we want? I know that was a little annoying before, that I couldn't buy the cheapest or easiest songs first because I was given a specific subset of songs to choose from each time I went to purchase one.
    Yes. The shop is fixed, and one can scroll through the song choices, making any song purchase.


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    • #62
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      y0ttabyte
      • May 2007
      • 417

      Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

      Purchased songs need to be included in the random song list still.
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      • #63
        Retired BOSS
        FFR Simfile Author
        Tasselfoot
        • Jul 2003
        • 25185

        Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

        y0tta: it's on the list of fixes... should hopefully be done after we finalize the new purchased bug issues.

        Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

        so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!
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        • #64
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          Xx{Midday}xX
          • Sep 2007
          • 3518

          Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

          Originally posted by Tasselfoot
          i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

          so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!
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          • #65
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            shadow 1800
            • Dec 2006
            • 1185

            Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

            Tass makes me want to cry ;_;

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            • #66
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              Silver_Brian
              • Apr 2005
              • 5576

              Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

              Originally posted by Tasselfoot
              y0tta: it's on the list of fixes... should hopefully be done after we finalize the new purchased bug issues.

              Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.

              so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!
              I'm really looking forward to this.

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              • #67
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                jimerax
                • Nov 2003
                • 8185

                Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                so 100+ songs could be thrown into this genre eventually.

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                • #68
                  Eaguru
                  Xiaounlimited
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2832

                  Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                  Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                  Dronak: i've been tossing around the idea of making secret songs go up to 500,000 instead of 100k. again, for the reasons of making them more valuable and making people make decisions. i want it to be the case where the vast majority of users can not access/play every song. it makes them more valuable.
                  That's going to **** over a lot of peoples' average ranks.

                  So now I have to whore FFR to play songs I could probably AAA in 1/50 the time it takes to get the credits. Great.

                  Guess I'll go wreck some tournaments for credits now, or something.
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                  • #69
                    Retired BOSS
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    Tasselfoot
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 25185

                    Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                    that does raise the issue of whether purchased and secret should be part of normal levelrank or special levelrank.

                    hell, if i had to make a decision.... i'd say that the 2 should be combined back into 1, and tokens should count for your levelrank. it'd mess the new users up a bit, but they aren't playing every song to begin with. and i can deal with having a few extra threads on "where is such-and-such song"
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                    • #70
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                      dean_machine
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1267

                      Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                      Yeah, I think tokens should count towards levelrank stats, or just remove purchased and secret songs from the levelrank stats.

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                      • #71
                        FFR Player
                        Orange Dude
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 168

                        Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                        Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                        so, i'll announce it for everyone... expect the next big song event to be multi-faceted... achievement tokens, purchased songs, and secret songs. yay!
                        Yes! Can't wait for this.
                        First time I read this I thought you had left out achievement tokens and I got a little frustrated. ha

                        Edit: So The new song is not playable anymore if you haven't purchased it, but also I'm hearing new background music? Anybody else getting the same thing?
                        Last edited by Orange Dude; 07-14-2008, 05:04 AM.

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                        • #72
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                          TheRapingDragon
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 9788

                          Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                          Sounds like a hell of a lot to end up implementing. I'm looking forward to it, if only to see how people react and to see how good FFR gets.

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                          • #73
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                            Xx{Midday}xX
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3518

                            Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                            Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                            hell, if i had to make a decision.... i'd say that the 2 should be combined back into 1, and tokens should count for your levelrank. it'd mess the new users up a bit, but they aren't playing every song to begin with. and i can deal with having a few extra threads on "where is such-and-such song"
                            +1

                            we can deal with those extra pestering threads for you. =)
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                            • #74
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                              qqwref
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 4096

                              Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                              500000? Oh geez, that's gonna take like a year. Sucks for us non-lucky folks who can't make money appear out of nowhere Oh well, personally I've always gone towards purchased songs since they stay bought, so at least I can theoretically get those.

                              I don't think the normal and special levelranks should be combined together, for two reasons. First, it would just encourage cheating on riddle tokens, since people who wanted to decrease their average rank would have more of an incentive to get tokens the easy way rather than actually spending the time to solve all the puzzles and find them the legitimate way. Second, where would the subscriber songs go? You'd still need a second levelrank for subscribers to check their ranks on those songs, and it wouldn't make sense to put them on the normal levelrank because then non-subscribers would have a bunch of 0-score songs that they can't get rid of by any in-game means. So I think I'd prefer to keep the levelranks as they are.
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                              • #75
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                                y0ttabyte
                                • May 2007
                                • 417

                                Re: purchased isn't broken anymore

                                Yeah if things like 500k secret songs are introduced you may as well merge the ranks, since getting 500k credits is quite difficult (moreso than a lot of tokens). The only issue is things like vROFL and Oni scores will need to be cleaned up completely so they don't unfairly inflate people's average ranks.
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