Fate/Stay Night

[purplepopcorn]

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ep 11 was a lot better than the previous ones. It's worth watching all of the others to get to it. the ending felt a little forced though, with saber just saying "^_^ k let's fight together" meh.

I want the next one to come out. =(

[Kefit]

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Just watched episode 12.

Uh oh.

While we never actually saw Rider die, most evidence points towards a positive on this (the most damning of which is the loss of Shinji's command seals). I dunno much about the game storyline, but I do know that Rider's survival past this conflict is a key factor in there being any meaningful involvement of Sakura in this show.

While this show doesn't need Sakura to be good, at this point it has given her enough screentime to establish her as my favorite girl by a hefty margin - she is nicely rounded character that seemingly has been molded to perfectly fit all of my personal moe tastes. Furthermore, the first eight episodes, along with this one, were filled with hints that there is more to her than meets the eye. Not only would it dissappoint me greatly if she doesn't have a role in this storyline, it would downright be bad plot construction at this point =/

Anyway, the fights in this episode were cool, but not nearly as beautiful as the last two. We finally get to see a couple more Noble Phantasms, and they seemed just a wee bit overpowered to me, at least compared to what Lancer and Assassin dished out in earlier episodes. I wonder what sort of horrifying attack our friend Berserker has in store with his.

Finally, all of you should be able to figure out who Saber is after this episode. Rider is a bit trickier, but I will give you a hint: do a bit of research on Pegasus.

[sleeplessdragn]

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Hey we still haven't seen Caster, perhaps Sakura has something to do with that? Eh? Eh?

[Squeek]

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wtf where did you come from

Well, the ominous "She's staring out the window and Tohsaka is watching" ending to that episode clearly indicates that she's gonna do something.

Clearly.

~Squeek

[Kefit]

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Not necessarily.

Most Hgame --> anime adaptations are made mostly for an audience that has played and enjoyed the game. Often, there is far too much story packed into the different routes in a game to successfully carry them all over to an anime series. In some cases, as with F/SN, the different routes are completely and utterly incompatible with eachother. Thus, anime adaptations will often make brief nods and references to these storylines to let the fans know that these elements have not been forgotten, but otherwise spend the series developing a different route. Tsukihime, the first Type-Moon renai game --> anime adaptation is notorious for brushing aside many of its characters like this.

What I am getting at is that the F/SN anime might just be making a brief nod to Sakura's storyline (the Heaven's Feel route) with these scenes. I'm guessing at this point that the series is going to heavily focus on Saber's storyline (the Fate route), with perhaps a few scenes from Rin's storyline (Unlimited Blade Works) to satiate her rabid fans.

I could be wrong about this. Remarkably, I have managed to find out a good deal about how the storylines in this game are seperated, while completely avoiding spoilers pertaining to the storylines themselves.

Of course, the producers have said that they are incorporating elements from all three main paths into the show. Furthermore, if it does diverge from the game storylines in order to accomplish this, it certainly wouldn't be the first anime adaptation that had great differences seperating it from its source material.

So I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

[Squeek]

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Why is every good anime based off a hentai game.

That's like saying every good movie that ever came out of Hollywood was originally a porn.

wtf

~Squeek

[Kefit]

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To be fair, most hentai games that get adapted into anime use the hentai as a sort of bonus to everything else. The characters and storyline are what these games are really about. The games that get anime adaptations cannot really be compared to American pornography, or even typical hentai (although there are certainly a good number of hentai games which do exist purely for the pornographic aspect).

Anyway, good renai games make for good adaptation material. Unlike most mangas or novels that get adaptations (which usually start their production long before the original form of the series reaches its end), renai games are complete and entirely self-contained the moment they are released. Furthermore, the heavily textual nature of these games requires that a lot of emphasis be placed on storyline and characterization in order to entertain the player, both of which (especially the latter) are very important to the moemoe/harem anime genre. Thus, high quality hentai games (and believe me, there are a lot of low quality games that we never hear of) make an ideal source for anime adaptations.

At least that is my reasoning for it. I'm not entirely sure how accurate it is, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

Eek, this is getting kind of off topic. I shall fix this with Sakura <3<3<3

[Kefit]

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O_O

I think we have our first confirmed character death in this episode. That is, if Ilya is telling the truth (although I can't see why she would lie about it). Ilya won some points with me here, but I've figured out that I really don't like her VA performance all that much. It simply comes off as flat to me.

I'm curious as to how Sakura will react to Shinji's death, but first she will have to come back into the show for that to matter at all. At this point I am going forward with the idea that she won't be doing anything significant in this series. That way I won't be as dissappointed if that turns out to be the case, and I will be doubly pleased if she surprises me.

Hmm. Looks like next week will be Archer vs Berserker. I'm curious to see what Archer is capable of when he is at full strength. I'm also curious how Shirou is going to recharge Saber's mana, and if it will come down to that after this battle (and no, I don't mean having Saber stealing the souls of random people).

[sleeplessdragn]

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I'm really glad that you keep updating per episode. Otherwise I wouldn't know when to get the next one.

[ninshikou]

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I <3 F/sn

[Kefit]

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Uh oh episode 14 (spoilers and such, so beware)

UNLIMITED ****ING BLADE WORKS

Holy ****.

That battle was EPIC. Archer is amazingly awesome in this episode, and it is a shame that we likely won't get to see him battle again. And yes, considering that we actually saw him fade away, and that there was a special ED to this episode, I think it is safe to say that he is dead and not coming back (unlike Rider, who could plausibly make a return at some point). Oh, and just to clarify, Ilya's words after the fight meant that Archer killed Berserker 5 times with his final attack (apparently Berserker has 12 lives, corresponding with the 12 tasks of Heracles).

Now Ilya is out for blood. How in the world are they going to get out of this? Certainly restoring Saber's mana will be important, but I can't see them getting that done fast enough for Saber to be up to full strength by the time Ilya and Berserker get to them.

Hmm. I wonder what sort of role Rin is going to play in the story now. Her involvement in the series has experienced a major decline (starting at about the point where Sakura disappeared completely), so I wouldn't be too horribly surprised if she too ended up fading into the background. I hope this isn't the case, as this show tends to get more interesting with the more girls that are present. I can't really see what she can accomplish without Archer in the grand scheme of things, but hopefully she will surprise me.

ps



God I hope she ends up doing something so that I can feel justified about this purchase >_>

pps Rumors are flying around that the producers of this show have stated that they will be going forth with original material starting at episode 16. This could make for an interesting change in pace and tone, since I understand that the series has followed the game very closely up to this point.

[Squeek]

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=(

Way to remove the coolest character in the show Geneon.

At least it was a blaze of glory. And thanks for clarifying that "5 times" thing. Totally didn't get it.

Like I said, I miss everything in anime.

~Squeek

Edit: DANGIT DANGIT DANGIT ACCIDENTALLY READ SPOILERS ABOUT ARCHER ARGH I AM RETARDED I'VE RUINED THE ENTIRE SHOW

[Kefit]

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I don't think there was any real way to understand that part without outside knowledge of the game. When I first heard it, I assumed that Ilya meant that Berserker had to kill Archer five times before he actually died. I got clarification on a random blog afterwards.

And yes, Archer was unbelievably badass in this episode. I had always wondered why people like him so much, and now I undertand.

Edit: DANGIT DANGIT DANGIT ACCIDENTALLY READ SPOILERS ABOUT ARCHER ARGH I AM RETARDED I'VE RUINED THE ENTIRE SHOW

Heh, I've somehow managed to avoid any spoilers related to him. I don't think we will be seeing more of his storyline at this point, but I will still be doing my best to avoid any spoilers until the end of the show just in case.

[Kefit]

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lmao at the way they changed the mana replenishment scene.

Very minor game spoilers that won't be showing up in the anime:
In the game, a master can replenish a servant's mana by having sex with him or her. Seems the anime changed that to what we saw in this episode, and I can't really blame it - a random sex scene here would have been horribly out of place.

Gah. The way this episode dragged its feet annoyed the hell out of me. I was really hoping that this whole vs Ilya+Berserker arc would finish up this episode, but I guess not. It's not that I am not enjoying this arc, but there are lots of characters that this story still needs to give some real time to (when was the last time any of the characters as much as mentioned Lancer or Caster anyway?) and the episodes left to do this in are running out. Of course, picking up the pace wouldn't have allowed for this beautiful cliffhanger, now would it?

Oh well. The fight scenes are still beyond godly. Saber vs Berserker in this had me drooling. Rin was also pretty awesome in this episode, which was nice to see, since she hasn't really done anything since like episode 7 or 8.

Oh, and the new OP ROCKS, even if the animation sequence makes no real sense (Shirou vs Archer wtf).

ps oh my god the CG dragon was bad bad bad bad BAD. I hope that this show never EVER does that again.

[sleeplessdragn]

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Beautiful isn't the word I would choose to describe the cliffhanger in this particular situation. White-knuckle clenching seems a bit more appropriate.