Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

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  • #16
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    FFR4EVA_00
    • Aug 2005
    • 1770

    Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

    Don't mess with infinity.
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    • #17
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      RandomPscho
      • Jun 2006
      • 504

      Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

      But isn't 1^x always 1?

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      • #18
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        Tokzic
        • May 2005
        • 6879

        Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

        Originally posted by Shashakiro
        TI-89 is wrong if it says that
        what

        It doesn't matter how many times you multiply one by one, you'll still get one. At no point in the number line does 1^x go OH HEY I'M GOING TO DEVIATE AND BE SIXTY THREE

        Same with zero.

        ur rong

        Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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        • #19
          Yes
          Specforces
          • Jan 2004
          • 5028

          Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

          Yes, I'm using the actual infinity key, and I thought so RandomPscho.

          As long as X is greater than or equal to 0 that should be the case.
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          • #20
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            Tokzic
            • May 2005
            • 6879

            Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

            Originally posted by Specforces
            Yes, I'm using the actual infinity key, and I thought so RandomPscho.

            As long as X is greater than or equal to 0 that should be the case.
            what

            1^(-2000)
            =1/(1^2000)
            =1/1
            =1

            no pretty sure it's any number

            Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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            • #21
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              Specforces
              • Jan 2004
              • 5028

              Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

              Wait, yeah, you're right. I wasn't thinking in terms of one.

              I've been frying my brain with Calc, Chem, and Physics lately.
              Last edited by Specforces; 12-4-2006, 03:02 PM.
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              • #22
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                itmorr
                • Jun 2006
                • 1498

                Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                Sorry didn't have time to proofread that last post. Also, isn't infinite - infinite = - infinite?




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                • #23
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                  talisman
                  • May 2003
                  • 4598

                  Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE



                  wiki says one to the infinity is undef.

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                  • #24
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                    Squeek
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 14444

                    Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                    If you argue that infinity is multipliable and divisible, then you also profess to say that 0.999... repeating infinitely is not equal to one mathematically.

                    We've had two threads on infinity in math and they're contradicting each other unless you say it's undefined.

                    Infinity is not a number. Multiplication is defined as "The product of two numbers". Division is defined as "The quotient of two numbers."

                    I don't see how you can put infinity into these statements and expect a result other than "undefined".

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                    • #25
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                      Tokzic
                      • May 2005
                      • 6879

                      Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                      well apparantly wiki's retarded

                      I don't see a reason listed anywhere.

                      Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                      • #26
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                        Shashakiro
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 9082

                        Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                        Originally posted by Tokzic
                        well apparantly wiki's retarded

                        I don't see a reason listed anywhere.
                        Oh, the weirdness of infinity. So many people don't understand it properly at all, because they try to think of it intuitively--and nothing about mathematical infinity is intuitive.

                        See, the reason 1^inf is undefined is beacause of these rules:

                        1^anything = 1
                        Anything^inf = inf

                        When those rules are put together in 1^inf, there is no proper answer (besides 'undefined") because you cannot follow both rules in that case, even though both must be followed whenever they can be.

                        Just because it makes no intuitive sense doesn't mean it's not true. Trying to think of it as multiplying a lot of 1's together won't get you the right answer, because you can never physically multiply an infinity of 1's together.

                        Also, itmorr: inf - inf is definitely undefined.
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                        • #27
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                          talisman
                          • May 2003
                          • 4598

                          Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                          well, squeek, you can multiply and add with infinity, only certain times. I remember vaguely doing all this with limits and **** at the beginning of calculus, but that was three years ago.

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                          • #28
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                            Squeek
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 14444

                            Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                            You can approach infinity and your limit can equal infinity, but you can't really use it for arithmetic.

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                            • #29
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                              talisman
                              • May 2003
                              • 4598

                              Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                              yes, you can. e.g. x + infinity = infinity

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                              • #30
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                                Shashakiro
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 9082

                                Re: Infinity * Zero = Any Number ARGUE HERE

                                You can use infinity for arithmetic, but any operation do involving it will either be infinity, zero, or undefined.
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                                Originally posted by Boogiebear
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