The Fitness Thread

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some before/afters

207lb



I think this was 200lb or so:



175lb:



170lb:



this took about three months. I'm starting a bulk cycle soon to last until October at minimum. I've thought about cutting more to add more definition to my lower torso, but frankly at this point I'm sick of cutting.

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When I do I totally feel vain; it's a good feeling.
There's not a clear distinction at all b/w narcissism and merely improving one's appearance. In fact, when describing it as such, I would say the two are exactly the same thing. The intent is what makes it narcissism. The difference in all those activities is that there's also minimum societal standards to appearance. Not adhering to those makes someone less appealing, and at the same time following them isn't narcissistic, it's wanting to avoid people thinking poorly of you.

I just saw this, and I'm curious why you think this true. There are so many questions I have.

* How exactly do you think these social standards get created? It's not like they're culturally inherent. People had to hold these preferences for these things to become 'standard'.

* How exactly are these 'standards' or 'minimums'? How are you determining this? They're if anything normative preferences. I don't know how you'd establish what the minimum is.

* Why are you elevating the act of adhering to societal norms? A lot of societal norms are stupid. What's your basis for making these standards so special?

* Do you think someone who either ignores or wants to go beyond social standards is a narcissist?