TWG VII - The Fox And Hounds - Day 6 End - Patriot takeover

[Afrobean]

also... add to this the fact that afro comes out and says that EB was the guardian. now, correct me if i'm wrong... but, why would a human want the wolves to know the guardian is dead???

Damn. I didn't think of that. I was just doing what eb told me to without thinking about it. Shit. I probably should've thought a little more before posting like that.

By the way, I didn't kill eb. I'm sure it was you, Tass. It seems that you have everyone convinced otherwise, though. I wish I had power over people like you.

[Afrobean]

now, i'm forced to assume that the other person EB told was Afro.

I forgot to add this in my previous post, but eb didn't tell me. I figured it out on my own based on his actions over AIM.

[lightdarkness]

AFRO!!!!!

You keep saying "OMG TASS IS FOR SURE A WOLF"

SHOW US PROOF!!!!!

I haven't seen a shred of it.

[HansSky]

So, Tass. Why were you so set on Afro changing his vote back to me?

[Afrobean]

AFRO!!!!!

You keep saying "OMG TASS IS FOR SURE A WOLF"

SHOW US PROOF!!!!!

I haven't seen a shred of it.

I suppose I have no absolute proof. It's all in the way he's acted toward me. Also, why would you be so sure Tass is human? You can't.

[lightdarkness]

You are right Afro

But there is a hell of a lot of information pointing to him being a human, and a hell of a lot more evidence pointing to you as a wolf.

[Afrobean]

But there is a hell of a lot of information pointing to him being a human, and a hell of a lot more evidence pointing to you as a wolf.

Can you please tell me what evidence is pointing to him being human and what eveidence is pointing to me being a wolf?

[lightdarkness]

Evidence leading to the fact Afro is probably a wolf:

my comments.... here is the full convo with Afro:


TasselFoot: so, if i "randomly" change my vote to hans, what would you do?
Afrobean16: probably change back to Shox
TasselFoot: so we could keep going back and forth?
TasselFoot: that'd be pretty fun...
Afrobean16: do you want me to badnwagon?
TasselFoot: i have a better idea though
Afrobean16: cuz that's what it sounds like
TasselFoot: RE-READ THE DAMN THREAD AND MAKE A REAL VOTE.
Afrobean16: There's nothing suspicious enough in my opinion
TasselFoot: your opinion is wrong
Afrobean16: well who do you think I shoudl vote for then?
TasselFoot: a wolf could (#$% on your pillow and you wouldn't think it would be enough evidence. i can't nor won't tell you who to vote for... at least, not on day 1... don't have enough info for that. but, with 12 pages of stuff... you have to have some suspicions.
Afrobean16: well i was a little suspicious of Shox, but I really think he probably jsut forgot about the game
TasselFoot: i don't. which is why i voted for him. not to bandwagon your vote.
Afrobean16: ok fine I suppose I'll put it back to Shox then
Afrobean16: not like he'll get a majority of votes anyway
Afrobean16: never mind about me voting Shox
Afrobean16: I'm gonna find someone else
TasselFoot: ok
TasselFoot: dude... wtf.
TasselFoot: that is NOT what i meant.
TasselFoot: you're the only person i contacted.... and only because you were voting like a retard.
TasselFoot: THAT is the sole reason i contacted you.
Afrobean16: well, I had nothing to go on and I wouldn't want someone lynch'd that I didn't think was a wolf
TasselFoot: and now all of a sudden you think i am.
TasselFoot: i tell you to STOP random voting, so i'm a wolf
TasselFoot: if i was a wolf, i'd WANT you to random vote!
Afrobean16: no, if you were a wolf you'd want me to badnwagon
TasselFoot: i don't care who you vote for... so long as it isn't me and it isn't random.
TasselFoot: i didn't tell you who to vote for.
Afrobean16: no but just the fact that you didn't want me voting for who I voted for was suspicious
TasselFoot: that isn't why
TasselFoot: its because it was random!
Afrobean16: why does it matter if it's random?
TasselFoot: because random voting kills humans
Afrobean16: would you rather me help lynch a human?
Afrobean16: not my voting
TasselFoot: your voting insures that your vote doesn't matter. and that bothers me. at least have a reason. and your evidence against me is just that other people have found me suspicious.
Afrobean16: no....
TasselFoot: yes
Afrobean16: you should stay in the game just because you were an "all-star." What I mean is this: An "all-star" on the side of the wolves is worse than anything else and honestly, that's what you've got me to believe you are.
Afrobean16: I came up with that on my own
TasselFoot: so? i'm not on the side of the wolves.
Afrobean16: well i can't really trust you on that one
TasselFoot: did you read nothing that i wrote all game so far?
TasselFoot: you read one god damn post.
TasselFoot: go back and vote for hans.
Afrobean16: I've read every post
TasselFoot: i contacted you to help... and you screw me over.
Afrobean16: I'd rather not
TasselFoot: ya know what the funny thing about this game is? i'm the most honest person in the game... and no one realizes it.
Afrobean16: sure, maybe but what about if you're a wolf?
Afrobean16: then you're lying out your ass
TasselFoot: exactly.
TasselFoot: i'll pull an LD on this one... if i'm lying to you, i'll make you a mod.
Afrobean16: I don't believe it, plus you're only a mod yourself, aren't you?
Afrobean16: correct me if I'm wrong but mods can't make others mods
TasselFoot: i could put in a good word.
TasselFoot: regardless, i'm not lying to you.
Afrobean16: I don't know what to tell you man
Afrobean16: you're suspicious to me
TasselFoot: seriously... think about this at least...
TasselFoot: if i was a wolf, why would i contact you at all to talk about changing your vote.
TasselFoot: it doesn't make any sense.
Afrobean16: if you were confident, you wouldn't be afraid of messing up and revealing your wolfness
TasselFoot: i'm not talking about that.
TasselFoot: i'm talking about the flat out fact that if i was a wolf, i wouldn't care who your vote was for
TasselFoot: especially as its random
Afrobean16: well if my vote was being wasted when it could be used to kill a human like Shox, you would want me to change it
TasselFoot: did i tell you to change your vote to shox?
TasselFoot: no. i didn't.
TasselFoot: i said to make it educated. you've yet to do that.
Afrobean16: I disagree
TasselFoot: seriously... give me 1 piece of evidence as to why i'm a wolf.
Afrobean16: give me one piece of evidence proving your human
TasselFoot: i already have.
TasselFoot: and re-read the thread, there are tons of pieces.
TasselFoot: albiet them circumstancial singularly... pieced together, they form a strong picture.
Afrobean16: I think the opposite though, so it can't be that strong
TasselFoot: you are jumping to the obvious... is that it? oh, tass is claiming to be human so much... he MUST be a wolf.
TasselFoot: is that it?
TasselFoot: cause why the hell would i be that stupid?
Afrobean16: not totally
TasselFoot: but thats what you just said.
Afrobean16: Well maybe I should proclaim my humanity jsut so everyone will believe I'm human
Afrobean16: it doesn't work like that
Afrobean16: If you're really human, you don't have to make sure to always say it
TasselFoot: i'd show ya my pm... but chardish frowns on that.
Afrobean16: I don't want to see your PM, cuz I learned that cheating
TasselFoot: ahh... but you are wrong. me saying i'm human has done 2 things. its gotten a bunch of unintelligent people to vote for me (**edited as per LD**) ... and its gotten a bunch of smart people to trust me (psychic, guardian, masons)...
TasselFoot: i've learned who all of them are by my actions.
Afrobean16: what?
TasselFoot: they've all contacted me.
Afrobean16: I know you don't know all the special jobs
TasselFoot: yes, i do.
Afrobean16: well didn't you think of the fact that at least 3 of them could be lying as wolves
TasselFoot: well, as there are 3 masons... only they could be lying.
TasselFoot: 3 masons, 3 wolves.
Afrobean16: well that doesn't work anyway, cuz you're a wolf yourself
Afrobean16: so ok, the jobs are real deals
Afrobean16: but still that doesn't prove anything
TasselFoot: so, what do i get to do to you when i'm actually human?
Afrobean16: do to me?
TasselFoot: i mean... i'm telling you i'm human.
TasselFoot: you are putting no trust in me.
Afrobean16: you don't know me in real life, so there's little you can do to me
TasselFoot: yes. pity.
Afrobean16: why should I put trust in you
TasselFoot: read my 1st post in the twg6 postgame.
TasselFoot: the humans can only win through trust.
Afrobean16: by trusting a wolf?
Afrobean16: I don't think so
TasselFoot: BY TRUSTING A HUMAN!
TasselFoot: god damnit.
TasselFoot: you realize you are forcing me to vote for jpec or flypie... both of whom i feel are human.
TasselFoot: as i can't allow myself a random shot of being killing.
TasselFoot: killed
Afrobean16: well, you tried to do the same to me...
TasselFoot: huh?
Afrobean16: you tried to get me to get my vote off of you and back onto Hans even though I now totally believe you're a wolf
TasselFoot: fine. keep your vote... glad i tried to help you. god damn idiots we have playing this game.
Afrobean16: you realize that you are also playing the game, so that would make yourself a "god damn idiot" as well
TasselFoot: no. because i'm playing with logic.
Afrobean16: as am I
TasselFoot: you are reading hebrew and passing it off as english.
TasselFoot: you have no idea what the $*%# you are seeing
Afrobean16: haha no
TasselFoot: you see one thing, and translate it as another, completely incorrect thing.
TasselFoot: thats the best analogy i can come up with.
TasselFoot: so there is absolutely nothing i can do to get you to change your opinion?
Afrobean16: nope
Afrobean16: I'm not easily perssuaded
TasselFoot: good. i expect a written apology if i die.
TasselFoot: obviously you are easily persuaded... i contact you, and all of a sudden i get voted for.
Afrobean16: *and you're actually human
TasselFoot: that is given.
Afrobean16: ok I'll submit to that
TasselFoot: better get to it.
Afrobean16: k, but I can't be 100% sure if you're telling the truth until the postgame
TasselFoot: right. so, once postgame hits... i'll expect that PM.
Afrobean16: ok then.... on the offchance that you're human
TasselFoot: like i said, better start thinking of what you're gonna say... assuming i die.
Afrobean16: k, I'll think of it
TasselFoot: also, if you are the wolf... no need to write it.
Afrobean16: well I'm not a wolf
TasselFoot: glad we have that in common
Afrobean16: haha you wish
TasselFoot: amazing how sure you are of yourself.
Afrobean16: well that's the type of person I am, I guess
TasselFoot: if anything, maybe you'll learn for next game on how to vote properly... what to find suspicious, etc.
Afrobean16: sorry I'm having fun arguing with you and all, but I gotta go now
TasselFoot: uh huh.
TasselFoot: perhaps you'll sleep on what i've said
TasselFoot: have a change of heart in the morning
Afrobean16: won't matter much, day will be over by the time I wake up
TasselFoot: well, if i'm still alive.
TasselFoot: perhaps you'll think about what i've said.
Afrobean16: sure
Afrobean16: but seriously, I gotta go now
Afrobean16: bye



also... add to this the fact that afro comes out and says that EB was the guardian. now, correct me if i'm wrong... but, why would a human want the wolves to know the guardian is dead??? now, i'm forced to assume that the other person EB told was Afro. and, since i didn't kill EB, i have to assume that Afro did and is framing me...

my vote goes to Afro

Now, the major evidence that Tass is a human he sent to me privately. You will have to contact him about that. But as I have re-read this thread several times over, every time I read it, I am led to believe Tass is human.

[HansSky]

But there is a hell of a lot of information pointing to him being a human, and a hell of a lot more evidence pointing to you as a wolf.

Can you please tell me what evidence is pointing to him being human and what eveidence is pointing to me being a wolf?

Here's the situation: Tass is screaming: God damnit, I'm a human! What IDIOT doesn't see that?!

Afro says: Yeah, ok wolf.

LD says: Afro, what's up man? What's your problem? Tass has no wolf-like evidence against him. So why are you calling wolf on him, bro?

I think in this situation, it's all on perspective. Tass has really nothing going for him either way. With him screaming human all the time, you have two choices. You either believe it, or you don't. I personally am looking at it on the perspective I am explaining it. I don't know if Tass is a wolf or not. In my book, he's 50/50. And 50/50 is not enough to be trusted. If he continues to say defend himself, I may start thinking he's human. Or I could think he's a wolf. It just really depends on how much you believe what he has to say, because otherwise, there really is no evidence. The only evidence is him repeating these words: I'm human.

[emccky]

I just lost all respect for Jpec, he posted the lyrics of a Linkin Park song...

Anyways. I'm siding with Tass on this arguement, I still have yet to find someone suspicious though. I'll talk to some people and figure my vote out soon.

[Afrobean]

That's funny, LD, because it was that convo that really got me believing he was a wolf. Then, when I found out eb was wolf'd, I was sure of it. As far as I know, Tass and I was the only people to know. I didn't do it, therefore, Tass did. Understand?

[lightdarkness]

That's funny, LD, because it was that convo that really got me believing he was a wolf. Then, when I found out eb was wolf'd, I was sure of it. As far as I know, Tass and I was the only people to know. I didn't do it, therefore, Tass did. Understand?

First of all, you are playing a game of he said he said.

Secondly, the wolves might not have known that EB was the guardian! It could've been a random vote, HOWEVER, I strongly believe you are a wolf.

[emccky]

sup.

Afro
voted and done.

[Afrobean]

Secondly, the wolves might not have known that EB was the guardian! It could've been a random vote...

Why do I overlook things so easily? damn... Seriously, I didn't even think of that possibility. Ok, I'm going to talk some things out with Tass. If my new hypothesis is correct, Tass may in fact be human.

Unfortunately, Tass is idle right now, so Tass, if you see this and I'm still on AIM, contact me. I have a question for you.

[HansSky]

You know LD, when players start to defend other players, that can raise some suspicions.



It has raised mine.