TWG 194 - Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I've kept watch of the thread because there's specific players I really want to see posting.

e.g: Bolth/Jessie

I have very little power on the claim stuff unless you're looking for a second opinion on what's going on.

I town read FFA over the posterity stuff he did by example near the end of last phase, but truth is that I don't know if he would have done that as both alignments.
Looks like the DBP lynch wasn't necessarily any better either.

So, gl me throwing a 3rd wagon here. It wasn't going to happen and would be weird anyway.

Don't recall asking about your vote last phase. Why defend it here

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

@Bolth

What did you have in mind when you followed the first DBP voting chain ?

[Bolth mannn]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

DaBackPack: I was leaning DBP scum at the start of the game as his playstyle wasn’t really what I was used to from him, he wasn’t really trying to push anything and seemed to lack direction. His play since FFA faked a redcheck has been more in line with what I’m used to, and I have no reason or knowledge enough of the setup to disbelieve any claims that have been made. His soft is way too big brain for me, but it is also very very detailed and goes back all the way to d0, so if he is faking, he has definitely put the effort and the planning in, which I guess I can’t rule out, DBP is a very capable player.

Hakulyte: Haku was extremely towny early game. This is weird for me as I’ve always struggled to read Haku in past games. I didn’t really question it until this phase though with the block. He IS doing his normal strange scumworld lists which are only said, I imagine, to gauge reactions, so I’m still town reading him for the most part, but this is my best choice for under the radar wolf.

JessieBessie: Pretty much always a wolf. Their appearances have always been brief and full of fluff but I noticed her entrance yesterday had a lot of focus on trying to make a MML/DBP scum team a probability, which besides me simply not believing it, would make us doubt their roleblock claims in the following phases, which could potentially be Jessie trying to protect her team mates. Possibly a stretch but there’s been nothing towny from this slot and if she isn’t a wolf, I have no idea what this game is.

Ullea/Wolfe: I have struggled to read this slot all game. Ullea was a straight null for me, their points made a lot of sense but also Leetic’s catch on Ullea’s post also made a lot of sense. Wolfe has come in strong and been saying a lot of things that make sense, and seems to have put effort in solving. I was quite skeptical of how quick he was to sheep Dusks read on me, and this phase has given me the impression again that he is following people (Leetic, this time) rather than coming out with his own thoughts.

Leetic: I’m a little concerned that Leetic hasn’t been NKd even though he was first PR to out, but I’m guessing wolves didn’t see him as a threat if he was a 1-shot. I do believe his claim, and therefore am not considering a vote here. Leetic is someone I would have probably tunneled on earlier in the game if there was no PR outing, as his play has been quite convoluted and he always seems like he has more knowledge than he lets on, but this would be a pretty huge tinfoil at this point in the game and is not something I’m interested in pushing.

MixMasterLar: I am a sucker for AtE and his ‘’I forgot’’ thing regarding the Roleblocker strengthened his claim for me. If I am wrong about this then I hate myself, but I’m pretty certain MML is exactly who he says he is. I think his progressions have been very natural all game.

Duskfall: I’ve been saying it most of the game but I’m pretty certain Dusk is scum. I thought he was town during memephase, but his refusal to get serious or take part in any sort of active solving since has drastically changed my read on him. His entrance today has also been disgusting, by assuming we have lost. He has seemed disinterested in helping town throughout the game, with a large majority of his posts since getting a little more serious last phase were all to do with mechanics only and his reads were trash and nonexistent.

With everything in mind, I think the team is Duskfall/Jessie/Wolfe and I would also lynch in this order.

I want to vote Dusk.

[leetic]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I've kept watch of the thread because there's specific players I really want to see posting.

e.g: Bolth/Jessie

I have very little power on the claim stuff unless you're looking for a second opinion on what's going on.

I town read FFA over the posterity stuff he did by example near the end of last phase, but truth is that I don't know if he would have done that as both alignments.
Looks like the DBP lynch wasn't necessarily any better either.

So, gl me throwing a 3rd wagon here. It wasn't going to happen and would be weird anyway.

This is a problem I've had with many of your posts, but saying you want to see someone posting more is not a read

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Don't recall asking about your vote last phase. Why defend it here

I think I'm the only player who called out that DBP/FFA was T/T.

I wanted to explain that real quick, but I guess no one looked that up.

[Bolth mannn]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

@Bolth

What did you have in mind when you followed the first DBP voting chain ?

I don’t understand the question

[leetic]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

DaBackPack: I was leaning DBP scum at the start of the game as his playstyle wasn’t really what I was used to from him, he wasn’t really trying to push anything and seemed to lack direction. His play since FFA faked a redcheck has been more in line with what I’m used to, and I have no reason or knowledge enough of the setup to disbelieve any claims that have been made. His soft is way too big brain for me, but it is also very very detailed and goes back all the way to d0, so if he is faking, he has definitely put the effort and the planning in, which I guess I can’t rule out, DBP is a very capable player.

Hakulyte: Haku was extremely towny early game. This is weird for me as I’ve always struggled to read Haku in past games. I didn’t really question it until this phase though with the block. He IS doing his normal strange scumworld lists which are only said, I imagine, to gauge reactions, so I’m still town reading him for the most part, but this is my best choice for under the radar wolf.

JessieBessie: Pretty much always a wolf. Their appearances have always been brief and full of fluff but I noticed her entrance yesterday had a lot of focus on trying to make a MML/DBP scum team a probability, which besides me simply not believing it, would make us doubt their roleblock claims in the following phases, which could potentially be Jessie trying to protect her team mates. Possibly a stretch but there’s been nothing towny from this slot and if she isn’t a wolf, I have no idea what this game is.

Ullea/Wolfe: I have struggled to read this slot all game. Ullea was a straight null for me, their points made a lot of sense but also Leetic’s catch on Ullea’s post also made a lot of sense. Wolfe has come in strong and been saying a lot of things that make sense, and seems to have put effort in solving. I was quite skeptical of how quick he was to sheep Dusks read on me, and this phase has given me the impression again that he is following people (Leetic, this time) rather than coming out with his own thoughts.

Leetic: I’m a little concerned that Leetic hasn’t been NKd even though he was first PR to out, but I’m guessing wolves didn’t see him as a threat if he was a 1-shot. I do believe his claim, and therefore am not considering a vote here. Leetic is someone I would have probably tunneled on earlier in the game if there was no PR outing, as his play has been quite convoluted and he always seems like he has more knowledge than he lets on, but this would be a pretty huge tinfoil at this point in the game and is not something I’m interested in pushing.

MixMasterLar: I am a sucker for AtE and his ‘’I forgot’’ thing regarding the Roleblocker strengthened his claim for me. If I am wrong about this then I hate myself, but I’m pretty certain MML is exactly who he says he is. I think his progressions have been very natural all game.

Duskfall: I’ve been saying it most of the game but I’m pretty certain Dusk is scum. I thought he was town during memephase, but his refusal to get serious or take part in any sort of active solving since has drastically changed my read on him. His entrance today has also been disgusting, by assuming we have lost. He has seemed disinterested in helping town throughout the game, with a large majority of his posts since getting a little more serious last phase were all to do with mechanics only and his reads were trash and nonexistent.

With everything in mind, I think the team is Duskfall/Jessie/Wolfe and I would also lynch in this order.

I want to vote Dusk.

At least half of those reads are really flaky.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

DaBackPack: I was leaning DBP scum at the start of the game as his playstyle wasn’t really what I was used to from him, he wasn’t really trying to push anything and seemed to lack direction. His play since FFA faked a redcheck has been more in line with what I’m used to, and I have no reason or knowledge enough of the setup to disbelieve any claims that have been made. His soft is way too big brain for me, but it is also very very detailed and goes back all the way to d0, so if he is faking, he has definitely put the effort and the planning in, which I guess I can’t rule out, DBP is a very capable player.

Hakulyte: Haku was extremely towny early game. This is weird for me as I’ve always struggled to read Haku in past games. I didn’t really question it until this phase though with the block. He IS doing his normal strange scumworld lists which are only said, I imagine, to gauge reactions, so I’m still town reading him for the most part, but this is my best choice for under the radar wolf.

JessieBessie: Pretty much always a wolf. Their appearances have always been brief and full of fluff but I noticed her entrance yesterday had a lot of focus on trying to make a MML/DBP scum team a probability, which besides me simply not believing it, would make us doubt their roleblock claims in the following phases, which could potentially be Jessie trying to protect her team mates. Possibly a stretch but there’s been nothing towny from this slot and if she isn’t a wolf, I have no idea what this game is.

Ullea/Wolfe: I have struggled to read this slot all game. Ullea was a straight null for me, their points made a lot of sense but also Leetic’s catch on Ullea’s post also made a lot of sense. Wolfe has come in strong and been saying a lot of things that make sense, and seems to have put effort in solving. I was quite skeptical of how quick he was to sheep Dusks read on me, and this phase has given me the impression again that he is following people (Leetic, this time) rather than coming out with his own thoughts.

Leetic: I’m a little concerned that Leetic hasn’t been NKd even though he was first PR to out, but I’m guessing wolves didn’t see him as a threat if he was a 1-shot. I do believe his claim, and therefore am not considering a vote here. Leetic is someone I would have probably tunneled on earlier in the game if there was no PR outing, as his play has been quite convoluted and he always seems like he has more knowledge than he lets on, but this would be a pretty huge tinfoil at this point in the game and is not something I’m interested in pushing.

MixMasterLar: I am a sucker for AtE and his ‘’I forgot’’ thing regarding the Roleblocker strengthened his claim for me. If I am wrong about this then I hate myself, but I’m pretty certain MML is exactly who he says he is. I think his progressions have been very natural all game.

Duskfall: I’ve been saying it most of the game but I’m pretty certain Dusk is scum. I thought he was town during memephase, but his refusal to get serious or take part in any sort of active solving since has drastically changed my read on him. His entrance today has also been disgusting, by assuming we have lost. He has seemed disinterested in helping town throughout the game, with a large majority of his posts since getting a little more serious last phase were all to do with mechanics only and his reads were trash and nonexistent.

With everything in mind, I think the team is Duskfall/Jessie/Wolfe and I would also lynch in this order.

I want to vote Dusk.

Man, people would have killed for you to do that in previous phases.

(well, I know you did one last phase, but it felt like a joke in comparison)

[leetic]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I think I'm the only player who called out that DBP/FFA was T/T.

I wanted to explain that real quick, but I guess no one looked that up.

Any reasson why you didn't vote at all? You could've easily voted jessie or something

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I don’t understand the question

Remember the L-1 DBP very early in the previous phase ?

I was wondering what you had in mind during the FFA red check part.

[Bolth mannn]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

At least half of those reads are really flaky.

I mean I’ll elaborate on any reads you want me to, but this is why I specifically said I wasn’t going to post my reads

Too many bs towny plays and mechanics bullshit has really made me unconfident on almost every read I’ve had throughout the game

[leetic]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Clearly this is T/T and I'd shoot Bolth here because Xiz said so.

Logic says FFA tho.

I assume that this is the post you're referring to, This honestly looks TMI to me, especially with your fatalistic "Logic says FFA tho" comment.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

Any reasson why you didn't vote at all? You could've easily voted jessie or something

I felt like FFA vs DBP had to be solved in some sort of way because of incoming mylo.
Jessie insta'd right before I could potentially vote. I was likely to vote FFA and be wrong anyway.

It's hard to ignore a claim fight and just be like "hey join my random 3rd wagon pls".

[MixMasterLar]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

I think I'm the only player who called out that DBP/FFA was T/T.

I wanted to explain that real quick, but I guess no one looked that up.

Haku I am certain that you also had posts that said all three of us were wolf. What does one of your many tinfoils have to do with you feeling like answering questions no one asked?

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

What screwed me up is how long it took for FFA to rescind his claim.

Past that point I still wasn't sure if I was getting gamed or not.