TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

You're delusional to think that saying "I did this on a wolf who wasn't known yet D0; I'm clearly town" is actually helping you.

I'll try to better explain this to you. I might have skipped a few steps before.

When the wolves got their role PM's and found out that there was a roleblocker, they would have known that they were either in the setup we're currently in or setup 2, which has a Doc and a Cop.

If the roleblocker gets lynched Day 0 and we're in Setup 2, the Cop can claim Day 1. If that happens the remaining wolf is pretty screwed.

I'm not saying that the wolves wouldn't bus. I'm saying they wouldn't try to bus the Roleblocker until they were certain they were in Setup A. That changed once Roundbox claimed Jailkeeper Day 1.

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

And I forgot to explain that the reason a cop would be comfortable claiming Day 1 is that he'd be certain that he was in the Doc/Cop setup once the wolf roleblocker got lynched because there is no other setup that includes both a cop and a roleblocker.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

damn
that was an emotional post.
@Mashi have you ever seen that from him before?
I'm reading that as pretty townie

The only time I've seen Mighty mad in a TWG was when he was absent at the end of a Day Phase on LLF AND I PUSHED A LYNCH ON Someone he read as human; he was human that game and wth phone posting is awful it takes like a minute for my message to even fully type out

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

I'll try to better explain this to you. I might have skipped a few steps before.

When the wolves got their role PM's and found out that there was a roleblocker, they would have known that they were either in the setup we're currently in or setup 2, which has a Doc and a Cop.

If the roleblocker gets lynched Day 0 and we're in Setup 2, the Cop can claim Day 1. If that happens the remaining wolf is pretty screwed.

I'm not saying that the wolves wouldn't bus. I'm saying they wouldn't try to bus the Roleblocker until they were certain they were in Setup A. That changed once Roundbox claimed Jailkeeper Day 1.

1) Stop theorycrafting the setup and using it to conclude a wolf read because it is Column A Setup with a JK, RB, and OSBP.

2) Roleblocker didn't get lynched Day 0, so stop. Regardless of this theory however, we arrived at the same situation except the fact it is more induced on us as town players to find the remaining wolf instead of having a Cop getting alignment checks on players.

3) Roleblocker in this game was Kawa/V, whom Kawa got prodded too hard and couldn't handle it and subbed out and V barely participated aside from 15 posts. Having this happen, and the last wolf knowing V was going to be rather inactive, it would be a slap on the wrists to bus him. This is far more believable than the theorycraft you keep trying to tell when we already fucking know the setup asshole.

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

@Jrodd
do you think Mashi would never ever wolf you?

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

1) Stop theorycrafting the setup and using it to conclude a wolf read because it is Column A Setup with a JK, RB, and OSBP.

We know that now. We didn't Day 0. I don't know why you're trying to hunt wolves while also rejecting the idea that we should take into account what the wolves knew at the time.

2) Roleblocker didn't get lynched Day 0, so stop. Regardless of this theory however, we arrived at the same situation except the fact it is more induced on us as town players to find the remaining wolf instead of having a Cop getting alignment checks on players.

No, the Roleblocker didn't get lynched Day 0. But Mashi and I put him in KitB range against a weak lynch. The situation we got to on Day 1 was not the same because Roundbox only got one shot at finding the wolf. He was wrong. If a cop had been wrong we'd still have that cop.

3) Roleblocker in this game was Kawa/V, whom Kawa got prodded too hard and couldn't handle it and subbed out and V barely participated aside from 15 posts. Having this happen, and the last wolf knowing V was going to be rather inactive, it would be a slap on the wrists to bus him. This is far more believable than the theorycraft you keep trying to tell when we already fucking know the setup asshole.

It's not a matter of how the town would view Kawa/V being bussed, it's a matter of how screwed setup-wise the last wolf would have been if V had been lynched day 0.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

It's not a matter of how the town would view Kawa/V being bussed, it's a matter of how screwed setup-wise the last wolf would have been if V had been lynched day 0.

Why the fuck does this matter and how the fuck does it pertain to our situation now?

What matters is agreeing upon which order to lynch players as we already know the pool in which we can only lynch from.

In any order, this is the pool:

Zenith - Jrodd - Nawk - Mashi

Sunfan is basically lock cleared by Roundbox and I doubt that the clearing is false.

I hold no qualms when I say this but Nawk, your time is running short because there is a better chance than the rest of the candidates that you are the lynch for this phase. Want to concede now and make it easy on all of us?

[Nighthawk252]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

It's relevant now because it means I think Mashi and myself look a lot more human because we tried to lynch V day 0.

Of those four names, Mashi's the only one I feel comfortable saying isn't the wolf. We only definitely get two lynches, and I'd much rather those be J-Rodd then you in that order. The wolf might give us a third if they decide to NK rather than go through a 3-way lylo but I'd rather not put it up to a 50/50 if you're the last wolf.

[_Zenith_]

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It's relevant now because it means I think Mashi and myself look a lot more human because we tried to lynch V day 0.

Of those four names, Mashi's the only one I feel comfortable saying isn't the wolf. We only definitely get two lynches, and I'd much rather those be J-Rodd then you in that order. The wolf might give us a third if they decide to NK rather than go through a 3-way lylo but I'd rather not put it up to a 50/50 if you're the last wolf.

You get town points, but it isn't enough to take you out of wolf territory for trying to lynch a unknown wolf at the time that NOW is the time you get those town points... how convenient right?

The lynch order is Nawk -> Mashi currently from dialect with Sunfan but he may change it depending on what he reads and how he interprets it.

Sunfan is going to hate this post but I kind of have to bring it up; I am certainly willing to die today because I trust town to narrow down even further when it's a 4-way after I die. I just really don't care except for finding the last wolf and I'll use my entire might to get it done.

[Curry and Rice]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

This is making my head hurt. >_<

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

This is making my head hurt. >_<

Lynch Nawk you won't be disappointed

[thesunfan]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

I want Mashi to speak before I decide for real.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

I just got home and am now turning on my laptop. Going to eat something and then take a good look at the game.

[Charles Claythorne]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

@Jrodd
do you think Mashi would never ever wolf you?

I don't like wolfing my friends unless the situation is extenuating. If j-rodd were about to be lynched Day 0 or something and forced to claim Seer, I would acquiesce to a wolfing of him for the sake of my Wolf Partners. I would be pretty against an immediate Night 1 death otherwise, however.

Nighty rebuking Zenith and expressing such annoyance is really making me feel Nighty is an indignant Human right now. He's otherwise very reticent in regard to his emotions and I think he would have a handle on them if he were a Wolf. Not to mention that Nighty was pushing for a Vendetta21 lynch both Day 0 and Day 1, and I still don't feel like he would bus like that.

I'm actually thinking the Wolf might be j-rodd, to be frank; I distinctly remember disliking one of Vendetta21's votes on j-rodd. I'm going to reread Day 0 right now though and see what I can gather.

[_Zenith_]

Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

I had brought up the V voting Jrodd a couple of pages back when looking at relationships via V, but Jrodd being a wolf makes enough sense to make us second guess ourselves.

Like I said earlier about Jrodd, Round claimed to have jailed him and a nightkill didn't happen; but it was presumed that Jrodd was the target, not the wolf. However, I brought to light that the only way we can definitely assure Jrodd's alignment is by lynching him.

Pretty much any person I've tried to prod for reactions and posts has been extremely pure which makes me second guess my second guess on myself.