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  • inDheart
    Picker @ JAX2
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2011
    • 505

    #1276
    Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

    Originally posted by Etylukah
    InDheart, did you play with Charu as wolf before?
    i found this and apparently never answered it, but "as wolf" is ambiguous

    he and i have never been wolf pals together

    he was wolf in turbo 4 and i was kinda halfheartedly scumreading him when i was confirmed town d1, and haku insta'd so i couldn't get back to thread

    games where i've been wolf and he's town is just fire emblem and he died the same night i replaced in, so that's not a game

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    • thesunfan
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      • May 2011
      • 10859

      #1277
      Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

      I'm back, sorry I didn't really get much of a chance to pop in here
      had an EXCEEDINGLY fortunate day if that helps

      I think the key to this game for me is determining Lar's alignment

      its almost never neee/inDheart. I've basically ruled that out and I will be shocked if neee bused inDheart like that without some serious miscalculation of the votecount during the first EOD or something like that, because just about everyone from 2+2 drinks the DON'T BUS UR WOLFBROS Kool-Aid. I suppose it is possible that neee didn't realize how close the vote was, but looking at his posts I don't think that its possible for me to operate under this pretense.

      I've kind of decided that Charu is just town this game. Its a dangerous read, because no one's ever fooled me as hard as he has before, but eh. The way he's behaving regarding a seriously unfortunate sequence of events IRL is null, like this doesn't factor that in but sometimes, when you know a player as well as I know Charu, and you see them enter this phase the way Charu did, and you see him being a 10 on the lostometer scale, it means he's just town.

      I feel like I know I'm right on Charu. The nightkills haven't been confusing fuckshit either, which is certainly a point in his favor but even if they were, I think I would still believe that he is town.

      Because I've ruled out neee/inDheart, and I'm ruling out Charu, then obviously it has to be Lar/heart or Lar/neee, so I want to interact with Lar the most leading up to EOD.

      @Lar, I get that this question appears to be completely irrelevant to the game, but I pinky promise that it is of the utmost importance in my mind, and I believe that it will help me determine your alignment

      can you, in like 2 paragraphs (a bit more if you wish) talk to me about who your favorite Tekken character is and why? The more detail the better until you get to the point where you're just rambling.
      Originally posted by Vendetta21
      Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
      Originally posted by XelNya
      I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
      Originally posted by star-crossed
      (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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      • thesunfan
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        • May 2011
        • 10859

        #1278
        Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

        Originally posted by thesunfan
        []4 -- danceflashrevo -- thesunfan (92), Charu (119), dadcop2 (76), inDheart (93)
        []4 -- inDheart -- AragakiAyase (133), Etylukah (42), danceflashrevo (75), theknightsofneeee (66)
        []1 -- theknightsofneeee -- mellonxcollie (31)
        []1 -- mellonxcollie -- MixMasterLar (44)
        updated, not much more fleshed out than it was before but w/e
        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
        Originally posted by XelNya
        I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
        Originally posted by star-crossed
        (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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        • thesunfan
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          • May 2011
          • 10859

          #1279
          Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          I don't know if the scenario would work out that way. If he was my partner I probably would have let him slide when he acted wolfy and didn't respond to my call outs satisfactory

          But to answer truthfully, if I had a scumread on my partner and he was one of the wagons while I also had soft defended the other wagon before (although DFR breakdown made me doubt him, I wasn't feeling the wagon prior) I have no problem voting InDHeart in this scenario.
          the answer to this game is in this post imo
          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
          Originally posted by XelNya
          I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
          Originally posted by star-crossed
          (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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          • Charu
            Snivy! Dohoho!
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2006
            • 6207

            #1280
            Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

            Originally posted by theknightsofneeee
            sorry i've been awol, my gf had an allergic reaction and we had to go to the hospital.
            I'm sorry to hear that, hope she's okay.


            Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
            Charu the red-nosed Snivy
            Had a very shiny nose
            And if you ever saw it
            You could even say it glows

            All of the other Snivies
            Used to laugh and call him names
            They never let poor Charu
            Join in any Snivy games

            (Click the arrow to see the rest)


            Originally posted by Vendetta21
            All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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            • inDheart
              Picker @ JAX2
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2011
              • 505

              #1281
              Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

              i didn't make it before i have to leave right now for a school club thing, sorry

              i haven't updated the chart yet and it's in part because i'm still about 200 posts out from the finish line but i'll stick my notes so far under this spoiler


              charu not w/w with:
              sunfan - #1033 (etc.)
              mml - #831?
              nee - #60 (weak), #475

              sunfan not w/w with:
              charu - #276
              mml -
              nee - #293

              mml not w/w with:
              charu -
              sunfan - #624
              nee -

              nee not w/w with:
              charu - #539, #701
              sunfan - #616
              mml -

              nee #130 "charu's on my 'would lynch' list"
              sunfan #315 "idc about [charu] very much this game"
              mml #418 "TBH SunFan doesn't seem any weirder here then his flip floppin' flip floppiness that is his d0 game."
              nee #457 likes sunfan's out-of-the-box read on him
              nee #465 "And charu, what is wrong with me calling you scummy when I decided that I think you're scummy?"
              nee #481 "I think rn I want to lynch charu the most."
              nee #500 "Why do it, if he's a wolf?" @ the sunfan avatar read
              charu #510 reads: MML town, nee "go screw yourself", sunfan "idk"
              mml #521 couple odd things: draws nee's attention to my vote on himself and tells him that people don't like mislynching charu
              sunfan #554 only the second person to notice my mml vote?
              mml #582 no longer likes sunfan because of his "your posts suck" post to dfr
              sunfan #614 mml coach?
              sunfan #657 possible deflection from a squabble with mml?
              nee #663 don't clear him for his dumbtell thing
              mml #696 "I don't think I would lynch Nee right now but I don't know if I am townreading him either."
              mml #717 jesus this post is a headache to read in anyone's favor
              mml #755 "If there is another wagon I rather it be Nee tbh"
              nee #804 nee/charu mindmeld
              nee #816 mml's vote is worst
              sunfan #996 confused on charu, warm on nee, lukewarm on mml
              mml #1038 a bit interesting for me because sunfan's around and can respond

              1) would mml bus (answer probably in valais)
              2) would nee bus after his powerwolf post thing (answer probably in one of the games he posted)


              i'm not reaching as many conclusions so far as i had hoped but it's not like i expected it to be easy or anything; where i'm leaving off is a juicy charu/sunfan interaction so that should be ripe for being something at least

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              • thesunfan
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                • May 2011
                • 10859

                #1282
                Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                I should say that even though I think it REALLY doesn't look like it can be inDheart/neee, that I'm trying to figure out if its even remotely possible without making any large assumptions

                I haven't ruled it out and I'm looking to either rule it out or find something to reinforce the idea that this pairing could exist

                I'm not saying that Lar HAS to be a wolf in my larger post, but determining Lar's alignment is of the utmost importance imo

                saying this mainly because I don't want Lar's interactions to be potentially swayed by thinking that I will only be evaluating him as a wolf
                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                Originally posted by XelNya
                I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                Originally posted by star-crossed
                (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                • Charu
                  Snivy! Dohoho!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6207

                  #1283
                  Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                  Originally posted by thesunfan
                  the answer to this game is in this post imo
                  Yeah but... he was pretty hard on inDheart, no? I feel like he was also actively pushing for inDheart, but that could be me glazing over.

                  Who knows, I just know it's not nee in this equation. Probably still not you either, but I'm not so absolute with you as I am with nee.

                  inDheart and MML are, by PoE, my two most "likely" candidates, but then I get confused with all the interactions that have been done this game.


                  Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                  Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                  Had a very shiny nose
                  And if you ever saw it
                  You could even say it glows

                  All of the other Snivies
                  Used to laugh and call him names
                  They never let poor Charu
                  Join in any Snivy games

                  (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                  • thesunfan
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                    • May 2011
                    • 10859

                    #1284
                    Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                    I don't think Lar is someone I would say "never buses" so I could see him voting for inDheart there if he thinks that his wolfbros posts suck, but that's what I'm trying to figure out
                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                    Originally posted by XelNya
                    I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                    Originally posted by star-crossed
                    (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                    • thesunfan
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                      • May 2011
                      • 10859

                      #1285
                      Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                      I could see him scumreading* inDheart
                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                      Originally posted by XelNya
                      I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                      Originally posted by star-crossed
                      (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #1286
                        Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                        Originally posted by inDheart
                        i didn't make it before i have to leave right now for a school club thing, sorry

                        i haven't updated the chart yet and it's in part because i'm still about 200 posts out from the finish line but i'll stick my notes so far under this spoiler


                        charu not w/w with:
                        sunfan - #1033 (etc.)
                        mml - #831?
                        nee - #60 (weak), #475

                        sunfan not w/w with:
                        charu - #276
                        mml -
                        nee - #293

                        mml not w/w with:
                        charu -
                        sunfan - #624
                        nee -

                        nee not w/w with:
                        charu - #539, #701
                        sunfan - #616
                        mml -

                        nee #130 "charu's on my 'would lynch' list"
                        sunfan #315 "idc about [charu] very much this game"
                        mml #418 "TBH SunFan doesn't seem any weirder here then his flip floppin' flip floppiness that is his d0 game."
                        nee #457 likes sunfan's out-of-the-box read on him
                        nee #465 "And charu, what is wrong with me calling you scummy when I decided that I think you're scummy?"
                        nee #481 "I think rn I want to lynch charu the most."
                        nee #500 "Why do it, if he's a wolf?" @ the sunfan avatar read
                        charu #510 reads: MML town, nee "go screw yourself", sunfan "idk"
                        mml #521 couple odd things: draws nee's attention to my vote on himself and tells him that people don't like mislynching charu
                        sunfan #554 only the second person to notice my mml vote?
                        mml #582 no longer likes sunfan because of his "your posts suck" post to dfr
                        sunfan #614 mml coach?
                        sunfan #657 possible deflection from a squabble with mml?
                        nee #663 don't clear him for his dumbtell thing
                        mml #696 "I don't think I would lynch Nee right now but I don't know if I am townreading him either."
                        mml #717 jesus this post is a headache to read in anyone's favor
                        mml #755 "If there is another wagon I rather it be Nee tbh"
                        nee #804 nee/charu mindmeld
                        nee #816 mml's vote is worst
                        sunfan #996 confused on charu, warm on nee, lukewarm on mml
                        mml #1038 a bit interesting for me because sunfan's around and can respond

                        1) would mml bus (answer probably in valais)
                        2) would nee bus after his powerwolf post thing (answer probably in one of the games he posted)


                        i'm not reaching as many conclusions so far as i had hoped but it's not like i expected it to be easy or anything; where i'm leaving off is a juicy charu/sunfan interaction so that should be ripe for being something at least
                        This is a shit ton of work if wolf, wtf


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • thesunfan
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                          #1287
                          Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                          I agree that I am never with Charu objectively

                          I think your reasoning for clearing Charu/Lar is kinda weak honestly. Wolves don't usually tend to interact with other wolves like that, but Charu is an exception to the rule imo. If a partner has terrible posts, he will sometimes (usually) ride them for it (See him harping on Red Blaster in Undertale)

                          I don't get how post #60 stops neee/Charu from existing at all, even weakly. Typo there? #475 I have the same problem with as above, Charu will talk to his partners like that.

                          -----------------------

                          I again agree that I am never with Charu objectively

                          You have me as potentialy with Lar, but have Lar as not with me, so the chart is a little bit messed up in that regard (potentially not finished, but pointing it out). Jumping ahead a bit but I think your reason for eliminating Lar/me is pretty weak as well. There's probably some interactions between the two of us that I think probably show we aren't together, but I suppose that's for other people to decide.

                          I think you preventing me from being with neee just for that post is honestly pretty weak. I didn't push on him, just brought out the tinfoil hat for a moment. If I tried to kill him for it, sure, but its honestly not even busing.

                          -----------------------

                          already talked about the lar/me world

                          -----------------------

                          the first post regarding charu/neee not existing like... doesn't say anything about the world not existing at all imo. the interaction surrounding the second post could honestly be viewed as reinforcing the fact that they are wolves together, because Charu is the only person who has hardcore cleared neee for the dumbtell. I don't believe that it reinforces the world, but I'm interested in why you think that it doesn't because I don't see your reasoning here

                          I think the post you have about neee/me not existing is really, really bad. Again, its not even busing or anything like that, he just mentions my name in passing as potentially being less post-heavy.

                          -----------------------

                          I kinda hate the way this not w/w chart is developing, I think there's a serious amount of flimsy reasoning contained within it.
                          Originally posted by Vendetta21
                          Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                          Originally posted by XelNya
                          I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                          Originally posted by star-crossed
                          (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                          • MixMasterLar
                            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5403

                            #1288
                            Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                            Originally posted by thesunfan
                            I'm back, sorry I didn't really get much of a chance to pop in here
                            had an EXCEEDINGLY fortunate day if that helps

                            I think the key to this game for me is determining Lar's alignment

                            its almost never neee/inDheart. I've basically ruled that out and I will be shocked if neee bused inDheart like that without some serious miscalculation of the votecount during the first EOD or something like that, because just about everyone from 2+2 drinks the DON'T BUS UR WOLFBROS Kool-Aid. I suppose it is possible that neee didn't realize how close the vote was, but looking at his posts I don't think that its possible for me to operate under this pretense.

                            I've kind of decided that Charu is just town this game. Its a dangerous read, because no one's ever fooled me as hard as he has before, but eh. The way he's behaving regarding a seriously unfortunate sequence of events IRL is null, like this doesn't factor that in but sometimes, when you know a player as well as I know Charu, and you see them enter this phase the way Charu did, and you see him being a 10 on the lostometer scale, it means he's just town.

                            I feel like I know I'm right on Charu. The nightkills haven't been confusing fuckshit either, which is certainly a point in his favor but even if they were, I think I would still believe that he is town.

                            Because I've ruled out neee/inDheart, and I'm ruling out Charu, then obviously it has to be Lar/heart or Lar/neee, so I want to interact with Lar the most leading up to EOD.

                            @Lar, I get that this question appears to be completely irrelevant to the game, but I pinky promise that it is of the utmost importance in my mind, and I believe that it will help me determine your alignment

                            can you, in like 2 paragraphs (a bit more if you wish) talk to me about who your favorite Tekken character is and why? The more detail the better until you get to the point where you're just rambling.
                            Oh man, I grew up on Tekken.

                            In Tekken 1 it was Law at first because of Bruce Lee but I ended up maining Michelle. Played every character somewhat regularly but Michelle was the best. Had a solod moveset and a cool stpry. Plus, eveb as a kid, it was nice to see a female character who's entire character wasnt summed up as "Sexy _____"

                            I didn't play Tekken 2 until the PS2 era but character wise it's between Lei and Jun. Lei is a Jackie Chan rip and legit funny in the games. Also has a shitton of staces in the game so he's fun to play---problem is he can be handled easily. Jun has a really broken reversal and good combo potential so she's my main when I go to that.

                            In Tekken 3 I was pretty much on the Heihachi train. He's such a jackass villian and it's great stuff. I aint big on demons or ogres in general but jackass badguys are just relatable somehow. Played Eddy like 4729472472 other people, Julia replaced Michelle so played her.

                            TekkenTAG I was rocking Jin+Jun so hard. Also Law+Paul.

                            Tekken 4 Xiaoyu stopped sucking and became a valod character so I was mostly Lei and Xiao until people got really good vs Lei, then Xiao and Julia. Still loved Heihachi.

                            Tekken 5 Asuka filled in for Jun so I picked her up because of that. Tried King again, dropped King again. Asuka and Heihachi as mains.

                            I only really passively played 6

                            And I mained Asuka+Lee in TekkenTAG. Lee works with her combos well.


                            So favorite Character as characteris probably Lei and Heihachi for being over the top.

                            Gameplay wise Asuka and Xiaoyu.
                            ​

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                            • thesunfan
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                              #1289
                              Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                              if I am being overly critical because its not finished and you were gonna address most of those points, then my b

                              but otherwise, its pretty notgood atm
                              Originally posted by Vendetta21
                              Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                              Originally posted by XelNya
                              I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                              Originally posted by star-crossed
                              (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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                              • thesunfan
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                                #1290
                                Re: TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

                                @Charu, on the previous page I quoted Lar saying that if he felt like a partner of his wasn't posting well or responding well to his pings, that he wouldn't have a problem voting for them

                                so yeah, Lar can bus
                                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                                Did you get a chance to kill that deadbeat sonuvabitch boyfriend of danceguys', "sunfan"? i hate that fucker. he's a stupid head. i'm way smarter and funnier and prettier and richer and more sensitive than him, and like i can get drunk and still hold complex logical conversations n shit and i bet that fucker cant.
                                Originally posted by XelNya
                                I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley.
                                Originally posted by star-crossed
                                (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.)

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