jTWG XLIV: POST GAME!

[hoochan]

Re: jTWG XLIV: POST GAME!

I hate how both Lito and Dev didn't want to go along with my plan. It would have been INGENIOUS >_> >_< <_<

[devonin]

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Having already committed to Lito's plan, we pretty much had to stick it out. Whether that was a good idea or not is a seperate question entirely, but Lito outing two wolves at once certainly didn't help.

[rzr]

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Christ, devonin, stop questioning me. Look, like I said, there's a reason you're playing in the junior game. I guess you'd like me to explain the ENTIRE psychic readings again? Fine. (This is all hypothetical because I forgot the real time frames)


day one: you die
Night two: psychic gets reading saying you were a wolf
day 2: psychic dies

OR

day one: you die
end of day one: psychic its reading that you were a wolf
night 2: psychic is killed
end of night 2: psychic gets no reading

What you're trying to do is put the two together which doesn't work.

[devonin]

Re: jTWG XLIV: POST GAME!

How about this:

Day one: I'm lynched
Night one: psychic dies
End of night one: reports go out, but psychic is dead so no reading

Sounds exactly like what -many- long-term TWG veterans have confirmed to me is the way psychics work. So I suppose they could all be wrong.

[Kekeb]

Re: jTWG XLIV: POST GAME!

How about this:

Day one: I'm lynched
Night one: psychic dies
End of night one: reports go out, but psychic is dead so no reading

Sounds exactly like what -many- long-term TWG veterans have confirmed to me is the way psychics work. So I suppose they could all be wrong.

Isn't that how he explained it in the thread..?
Also, i see what you did thar.

[devonin]

Re: jTWG XLIV: POST GAME!

WHat happened in the game was

Day: I'm lynched
End of Day: Xception was told I was a wolf and posted about it
Night: Xception died

[rzr]

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OK! TRY AND GET IT THIS TIME: I GIVE THE PSYCHIC REPORTS AFTER EVERY DEATH. DOES THAT HELP YOU? You need to see it from the perspective of time also. If I give the readings to everyone before I publically end the night then the wolves could change their kill right after I send everything and the game is ****ed.

[devonin]

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My point is that the rules say that reports are given out at the -end- of the night phase, and thus it was relevant to us to kill the psychic to protect the mystery of whether I was a wolf or not in addition to helping protect the remaining two wolves.

Had you said that you were modifying the rules to give the reports directly following every death, it would have impacted our strategy.

If I give the readings to everyone before I publically end the night then the wolves could change their kill right after I send everything and the game is ****ed.

What?! Wolves give you a name, Seer gives you a name, Guardian gives you a name. You end the night phase and send out all the reports. Where are the wolves changing anything in there?

[rzr]

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That's the readings of a typical psychic. But DrKirth, Megamon, kekeb, Bynary, and others all PMd me and asked how I gave the readings. If you had questions you should have asked then instead of trying to find an argument with me now.

[devonin]

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Instead of assuming that someone who has hosted before would -tell- us if he were changing from an established rule? Seems to me that reports going out at the end of the night is supposed to be the standard and we'd be told at the start of the game if you were modifying any rules.

I know better now I guess. I'll have to ask every host to individually confirm every rule to make sure they aren't modifying it.

[rzr]

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Yes, you should ask the questions. You of all people should know that when you don't understand something you need to ask questions to figure it out. Everyone else did and nobody else has any questions about it. They all understood it.

[devonin]

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I understood what the rules were, I didn't understand that the host would be changing rules without saying anything.

[rzr]

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Player Analysis part 2

KilikOdagawa - Well, it took you a while to catch on but once you did you grasped the game in your hands. I really hope you come back because I enjoyed watching you play. However, work on your defenses when sense accuse you.

jugglinguy- I'm not too sure what to say. I know full well that you know the TWG game enough to play the real thing. But I haven't had a chance to really see you play because the only 2 games I've known you in you were a wolf and died on day 2. Better luck next time

Megamon88 - damn. You got lucky with your seering on jugglin. You made a good seer though. I was very impressed that you were able to get lito killed and keep the faith of the other humans. You are indeed ready to play TWG. Good game

DrKirth - because like kekeb said most of the game was on AIM I wasn't able to see your playing skills full out. However, you were on the forums almost as much as me and I really respect your activity. Also good job with staying alive to win the game. You're suitable for TWG but the problem is too many spots are already taken but good luck


The Next 4 Will Be In My Next Post

[Makilaz]

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Yes, you should ask the questions. You of all people should know that when you don't understand something you need to ask questions to figure it out. Everyone else did and nobody else has any questions about it. They all understood it.

Sorry rzr, but I have to take exception to this. If someone truly believes they understand how a game mechanic works, then they're not going to ask any questions about it. If you change the way a game mechanic works, e.g. the psychic reports, then it would be prudent to inform the players of your game about the change, otherwise they're going to assume everything is how it is usually run. I would've done the same thing in devonin's position.

[Litodude]

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I was definitely MVP with my amazing guarding.

I hope that's sarcasm.