TWG XL Hosting

[jwcgator]

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I had an idea for a game that stemmed from the discussion about games really human-alliance balanced. I've talked it over with a few people, and right now it's

16 Players
3 Wolf
1 Master
Psychic
Guardian
Seer

The trick is, the blue roles are illegal in that if the host gets any sort of accurate psychic/seer/guardian report attached to a name or someone comes out in the thread they're immediately removed. The other option is to remove the psychic and include cardflipping. It's pretty much a regular game, just with the illegal blues + MW, the human alliance is harder to build.

flame away!

I like this game, but the only correction I would make is that if someone sends in an incorrect accusation like "JWCGATOR SEER'D IGGY AND HE CAME UP HUMAN" that player would die. This way you don't have anyone randomly guessing.

[StoicRoivaS]

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Observer's post #10 sounds like a really fun game. I'm not a huge fan of "you just about can't win roles" so I'm sure the SK would appreciate any protection you can give them provided it doesn't overturn the game's balance in any major way. Nothing specific comes to mind just yet. Possibly one free wolfing protection. Wolves see who SK is but may opt to keep him around as he's offing humans along the way. Then when end game comes it's a battle of wits (of sorts) to see who can get the other lynched before their night kills come up. Just a thought.

[talisman]

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observer's last sounds good.

serial killer doesn't trump a regular guarding, I assume?

[jwcgator]

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After reading it again, observer's idea seems really interesting.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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In the last game with the SK, he was immune to being wolfed as the SK I think. (Course he was a vampire first and could be wolfed then changed into the SK)

Being immune to a wolfing would be excellent because we also have a guardian. Just another element to stop concrete alliance building.

[FoJaR]

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that sounds like a great game.

observer

and i like the SK being immune to wolfings, unless there's only one wolf left, then i say he should be vulnerable to being wolfed, or conversely the last wolf should be immune to being serial killed, or something.

[nforcer06164]

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I'm not going to throw in any suggestions, because I've been away for a while. OH HAY GUYS nforcer's gonna play TWG!

[xObserveRx]

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to clarify the situation with the SK:

1) The serial killer cannot be wolf'd unless the # of wolves >= # of humans. (Remember, in this game it is possible for the wolves to outnumber the humans and the humans still not lose the game.)

2) If there are more humans than wolves in the game, the only way the SK can die is by being lynched.

3) The Serial Killer wins if:

a) there's no humans left, and only one wolf.

b) there's no wolves left and only one human. (Subject to change.)

c) (This scenario would be very rare, but...) If there is one human, one wolf, and the SK left.

In the event of a human raping, (IE. all wolves gone and like 6+ humans left), does anyone see a problem with the second win condition being moved up to 2 humans left instead of one?

That's the only thing I've left to decide on.

@Talis: Yes, a guarding will stop both a wolf attack AND/OR SK attack.

[talisman]

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clarify how guardings/wolfsbanings/sk-nonwolfings would be reported. The obvious way and what I'm assuming will happen is that only deaths are posted, and anyone successfully guarded or not killed someone will not be revealed publically or privately.

[xObserveRx]

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You've got it. Reporting sucessful guardings/banings would actually give the reds/SK an advantage. Any successful guard and or non-killing will not be reported publicly. As for informed the saved attackee, I've yet to decide. This may give the greens/blues an advantage in some way I don't see yet, but at this point I don't see the harm in telling the attackee that he/she was protected. It would then be up to the attackee whether or not they wanna tell people about what happened.

Also, I thought about something and it's up to you guys about how to do this.

The SK's card is revealed as a green right now, (upon his/her death) and I can see this being an advantage and not. What I want you guys to decide is if it's really a big enough factor; people will stop seeing 2 people dying a night and figure out that the SK is dead. This will help ease the green/blues burden's a little. However, this may take a few more days as it is possible that the SK's attacks are getting stopped. So by not revealing that the SK was killed upon his/her death would kind of be a red advantage, in a way.

It's really up to you guys. What do you think?

This is really the last concern I, personally, have.

[iggymatrixcounter]

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Have any reportings of the SK come up green. In practice, he's just a human with a problem and therefore can't really be found out if he died, just his actions ceasing.

[Kagome]

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I'll be in this one if that's cool.

[StoicRoivaS]

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Amendments/clarifications sound good. I vote private revealing of all applicable info to the respective parties involved and SK being called "green" for all intents and purposes. Signups soon?

Edit: Agreed with Iggy's statement. When in doubt, the logical answer tends to fit best.

[Kilgamayan]

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I don't care what we do. Wake me when it's time to play.

[xObserveRx]

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Someone, anyone say yes and I'll conduct signups.