TWG SLUMBER PARTY!!

[talisman]

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I approve of this game, I think it will lead to some REALLY interesting gameplay. There will be lots and lots of lying. For example if you've arranged to sleep with someone already and someone else comes up to you and asks you to sleep with them you can't be like "no I'm sleeping with someone else" because that would be a big help to the wolves you'd have to either A) say yes but not send in your pm B)say no you're going it alone C)make up some other excuse.

Also the prostitute will have to be extra careful. She won't want to make herself look obvious by going around and asking to sleep with people, and instead will have to hope people come to her. Also, instead of trying to sleep with wolves as a traditional seer might, she'll want instead to sleep with humans since sleeping with a wolf who has the ability to kill you isn't a good idea. It will be a very complex game.

[Tasselfoot]

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I will only sleep with women.... getting it out there now. So, here's to hoping flypie, jurs, panda, whorli... all my bitches... join.


or chardish. he's fairly girly.

[User6773]

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Good thing you want to sleep with 16-year-olds :P

P.S. I think you're bisexual.

[Tasselfoot]

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Just for you Evan. And 16? Meh... you're right. Too old for me.

[FoJaR]

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eb: yes, very good story telling, and it depends on balancing things whether the tent of attacking is announced the next day or if just who died is announced.

i was thinking the tent would be announced as well, as it would be where the bodies were found.

[dAnceguy117]

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lol sex banter

Wow this game looks awesome. Fish, if you get to hosting this, I will come out of temporary-TWG retirement. When I vote on game formats in the host voting, it's because it makes me think, "hey, that might be fun, and it's better than the other ideas". This is the only format I've ever seen that's made me go "MAN, I want to play this".

One question. How exactly will the wolfings be announced? It can't say whose tent it was in for obvious reasons.. so I guess it will just list off all of the deaths? Also, it won't mention a zombie getting wolfed the first time, will it?

In this sense, I'm completely missing the effectiveness of the wolf zombie..

In the game, there will be either 2 or 3 human zombies, and 1 wolf zombie (to prevent humans from going "oh, that tent got wolfed, but only one person died, he's a guarenteed human!")

If neither the tent nor a zombie's first time wolfed is announced, what good is this? I mean, I guess people could claim that so-and-so was bunking with them, but.. well, wait, they're dead. ..wtf? This is getting confusing. What I'm trying to say is, how would anyone else know what tent they were in when they were wolfed, or even that they were wolfed?

To clear my thoughts up, the zombie's first time wolfed can't be announced because.. well, it would just get ridiculous. They're alive for one day as a semi-known human, but then they get wolfed the next night.. what good is that? And if a wolf zombie gets wolfed.. Wait a second, I get it. The wolves don't wolf the human zombie the second time to make them look like the wolf zombie. Tricksy hobbitses.

This is getting crazy just thinking about it XD I'm pumped for this game. Just to reiterate, since my train of thought made a u-ey, the tent that someone was wolfed in can't be announced by the host the next day, right? That would lead to anyone who makes a secret wolfing being lynched, since they'd be..

FUCK. This can't be assumed because of the zombies. Christ this is hectic. I suppose all you smart people realized all this right off the bat :P

Wait. I've got it. If both the zombie's first time wolfed and what tent they were in are announced, this is where what I said earlier comes into play. Anyone who makes a secret wolfing will be killed because it'll be obvious that they can't have been wolfed.

So, in other words, I'm probably trying to piece together what you already know. I'd just appreciate it if you could neatly and ORGINIZATION'dly (cool new hip word) post exactly what will be announced by the host at the start of a day concerning the wolfings.

ONE LAST THING. This one I at least know I want to ask. Could you repost the rules for the prostitute? I wasn't there for that game, so I don't remember how the blackmailing worked. Also, it would be useful information for any new players.

Worst post ever XD

EDIT: Now, based on what I've pieced together combined with what FoJaR just posted, a zombie's first time being wolfed can't be announced because that would lead to immediate lynching of anyone who makes a secret wolfing. Back to what I said earlier, this kind of ruins the effectiveness of the wolf zombie. No one would know that they bunked with anyone. Stories could be made up, in general, and.. well, they would be unjustifyable, frankly.

Well, I suppose it could be pulled off.. but I don't think it would be too effective. Wasting a wolfing just to try to pass off a fact that they bunked with someone and didn't die.. hardly believable, not at all worth it. Unless a wolf bunked with the zombie wolf and secretly wolfed them, their name is announced, etc. Okay, I guess I see where this is going. I still don't quite see the need for the zombie wolf.

[FoJaR]

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on second thought, maybe the bodies should be found in the village square, as the wolves extra kill would be suicidal if a single body were found at their house.

[FishFishRevolution]

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ROFL @ danceguy. I think tent wolfing should be announced AND there will be no blackmailing in this game. Tent wolfing keeps the zombies and wolf-zombies with a purpose.

[dAnceguy117]

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Okay, so in other words.. the prostitute is just a seer? Unless there was another effect of the prostitute I didn't catch.

I'm going to re-ask this, with a post less cluttered with crappy, incomplete thoughts. Could you please post exactly what will be said by the host at the beginning of each day, about the normal wolfing, the tent wolfing, and a zombie's first time being wolfed? thx buddyz

[FoJaR]

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after finally figuring out what fish was doing with the zombie thing (when we talked about it a few days ago, i thought he was crazy), i think what will be announced is the dead, and where they were.

zombies, like other blue roles, will not be announced by the host.

[dAnceguy117]

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This makes the wolf zombie useless. Fish said it was to counteract a human zombie saying "hey look at me I got wolfed and I'm still alive" and everyone else goes "k." If, when the zombies are wolfed and are still alive.. and nobody knows it, not even them.. there's really no point.

Here my idea. If a human zombie is wolfed, send them a PM so they know they've been wolfed. They're still in the game. Now, since they're still alive, the wolves know they're a zombie. This could lead anywhere. The human zombie, knowing the wolves are after them, could try to bunk with someone to save themself. They use this as an excuse, and the person they ask can decide from here.. and this is what counteracts the human zombies, the wolves could lie about this just as easily. At the same time, the wolves might be trying to somehow trick the zombie into bunking with them for the second wolfing. I'm liking this idea.

With all this going on during the DAY.. this will be insane. That's why I'm so excited for this game. With so much going on, I don't think it gives anyone room to be inactive.

If anyone comes up with any radical strategies for the humans or wolves to get an easy win.. please post them NOW instead of LATER so the rules can be adjusted accordingly. I'm sick of getting into games with new concepts and Tass (had to pick on you) cooks up some master plan that everyone follows; this nullifies the new elements of the concept, making everyone be inactive as usual.

EDIT: The idea negates the idea of the wolf zombie, which was intentional. I was totally not diggin' it.

[FoJaR]

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i think the reason fish wanted a wolf zombie, was so that if a zombie was lynched and revived, it wouldnt prove their humanity.

i think my original idea of having no zombies and no locations of death announced would make a simpler, but still fun game.

the wolf and human zombies are there to provide ambiguity while letting you know the locations of death.

you could keep that same ambiguity by not disclosing the location of death, leaving matters of bunking as heresay.

and really, all zombies do is take away the optional wolf kill while bunking option, because of the chance of using that optional kill on a zombie.

i dunno, i think there's a simpler way to do this that would work just as well.

[FishFishRevolution]

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Here's how it would work.

Tps is a human zombie.
danceguy is a regular human.

danceguy decides to bunk at tps's place.

Wolves decide to wolf tps.

The next morning, it is announced that tps's tent was wolfed, and that danceguy was killed. This means to everyone else either:

Tps is a gutsy wolf, taking the free kill, and maybe missing or not wolfing another tent.
Tps is a zombie (now human).
Tps is a wolf-zombie (now regular wolf).

[FoJaR]

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Here's how it would work.

Tps is a human zombie.
danceguy is a regular human.

danceguy decides to bunk at tps's place.

Wolves decide to wolf tps.

The next morning, it is announced that tps's tent was wolfed, and that danceguy was killed. This means to everyone else either:

Tps is a gutsy wolf, taking the free kill, and maybe missing or not wolfing another tent.
Tps is a zombie (now human).
Tps is a wolf-zombie (now regular wolf).

no sane wolf would waste an extra life on one human kill.

[evilbutterfly]

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This would make a great picture-based story or flash animation story, btw. ;D Anywho, here's how I would see that things should/would be announced:

What happened - What we're told:

Wolf A sleeps with Human B in B's tent and kills him - A awoke to find B dead in B's tent.
Zombie Wolf A sleeps with Human B in B's tent and the wolves attack the tent - A awoke to find B dead in B's tent.
Wolf A sleeps with Zombie Human B in B's tent and attacks him - Nothing
Zombie Wolf A sleeps with Zombie Human B in B's tent and the wolves attack the tent - A and B awoke in B's tent with many scratches and bites, but were okay [that's if nightly wolfings HAVE to be reported. Otherwise, nothing would be said]
Human A sleeps in his own tent and wolves attack it - A died in his tent.
Human A and Human B are getting it on in B's tent when a wolf-grenade kills them both - A and B died in B's tent.
Zombie Human A and Human B (super necropheliac man) are getting it on in B's tent when the wolves attack - A awoke to find B dead in B's tent.


Thus, just because somebody survives doesn't make them a for sure human. However, if a wolf goes around sleeping with and killing multiple humans, they're obviously a wolf. Sound good to everybody so far?

One big question: Card-flipping for the prostitute: Would it be balanced/will we do it that way?