I might sit this one out, I'll have to think about it.
Humans intentionally working against humans just...isn't kosher.
The game's what you make of it. You might push strongly for a human victory, people might follow your lead. This can be especially potent if wolves are pushing for tribal victory. Form alliances, and give it your best shot.
The whole gist of the game is that tribal isn't always the best way to win, and wolf-human isn't always the best way to win.
Going for a tribal win is not a good idea. Why? Because it requires depending upon the wolves to kill a significant portion of the other side for you. Regardless of tribal affiliation, the wolves are not on the same side as you, and thus depending upon them to do something for you is not a wise idea.
Although I like the general idea of this game, I don't see it working as it is currently set up - the colors will simply have no affect upon the gameplay.
Originally posted by seinno
and also thank you everone for clearing it up for me I will try to start using my two hands iv tried quit a bit i put my left hand index and middle finger middle finger is on the up arrow index on on left arrow and right hand i use my index for the down button and middle for the right button does that seem weird?
Going for a tribal win is not a good idea. Why? Because it requires depending upon the wolves to kill a significant portion of the other side for you. Regardless of tribal affiliation, the wolves are not on the same side as you, and thus depending upon them to do something for you is not a wise idea.
Although I like the general idea of this game, I don't see it working as it is currently set up - the colors will simply have no affect upon the gameplay.
I don't agree at all. If you can form an alliance with a wolf of your color, you can have him convince the other wolves to wolf someone of the other color while you and the rest of your side try to lynch the other color's wolves. Also, since few will have the opportunity to be assured of someone being a wolf, this could happen between two supposed humans. I think this could work really well.
Going for a tribal win is not a good idea. Why? Because it requires depending upon the wolves to kill a significant portion of the other side for you. Regardless of tribal affiliation, the wolves are not on the same side as you, and thus depending upon them to do something for you is not a wise idea.
Although I like the general idea of this game, I don't see it working as it is currently set up - the colors will simply have no affect upon the gameplay.
You keep thinking this way. You draw wolf, and you randomly start killing humans, not caring about which tribe they're on.
Meanwhile, a wolf from the other tribe is convincing you to kill off members of your own tribe. It's still a wolf/human issue - as far as you know. Secretly, you're being plotted against by your own team.
That wolf from the other tribe then conspires to have you lynched, and you're gone. There will be conspiracies - that's part of the game. TWG is great, but I wanted to see more scheming and plotting going on, which is why I developed this variant.
In case you can't tell, I love inventing social games like this.
It is a little like the 2 different wolf teams game, but with much more cooperation.
Most people will make the other wolves a target, but after day 2 or 3 some will start to feel that maybe they need to go for the the other tribe instead. The thing with this, is that the humans need to identify whether or not certain people are seeming to go for less wolfy candidates. This wont happen until day 2 or 3, but then it is a constant problem after that.
Chardish, I am thinking mostly from a human's perspective.
Indeed, this game should be a blast for the wolves to play. That is, if they can ever agree upon a wolfing target - I see potential problems with this further in the game.
However, I don't think there will be much scheming on the part of the humans. I can't think of a likely situation in which it would be a better idea for a human to try and ally themselves with a wolf (which will be necessary for a tribal victory) than to just go through the normal course of trying to lynch all the wolves.
Originally posted by seinno
and also thank you everone for clearing it up for me I will try to start using my two hands iv tried quit a bit i put my left hand index and middle finger middle finger is on the up arrow index on on left arrow and right hand i use my index for the down button and middle for the right button does that seem weird?
This sounds like it's going to be even less fun for a regular human then normal.
Bleh.
Count me out.
I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.
The only problem I foresee for a human is this: In regular TWGs humans have to deduce who the three wolves are. That's a tough enough job as it is. Now, they not only have to deduce the wolves (okay, so they don't HAVE to, but it'd really help), but they also have to deduce everyone's color. It's also possible that everyone's lying.
The only way around this that I see is forming an alliance with the seers, and that's dangerous enough as is.
But, if this doesn't prove to be an obstacle, this game sounds incredibly fun for humans and wolves alike.
This sounds like it's going to be even less fun for a regular human then normal.
Bleh.
Count me out.
This is certainly a part of my problem. Actually, this is a problem for all TWGs, and I have recently been trying to think up of a game variation that somehow gives everyone some information to work with without completely destroying the way the game works. But that's a matter for a different thread.
Anyway, Chardish, I am definitely willing to give this a chance - indeed, the only way to find out if my concerns are really valid or not is to run a game. I'm thinking it will turn out like Infiltration, and will be more of a learning experience than anything else, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Originally posted by seinno
and also thank you everone for clearing it up for me I will try to start using my two hands iv tried quit a bit i put my left hand index and middle finger middle finger is on the up arrow index on on left arrow and right hand i use my index for the down button and middle for the right button does that seem weird?
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