Why Is Using The Bar Bad?

[Hr2]

Re: Why Is Using The Bar Bad?

Use a bar for 9+ footers and when you're trying to FC/AAA other songs. You need to play without a bar at the start to get used to the game and get stamina...

[Patashu]

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bar is not cheap i mean they woulndt put it in the game if it wasnt cheap.

The original intention was not to be used as a crutch, but to prevent people from toppling backwards while playing; a safety measure. In fact, I think it actually says somewhere in the konami handbook for a DDR machine that you're not to hold onto it.

[Triplex72]

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lol we I went to the arcade last, it was around christmas and they put like this shiney-sparkle covered tinsel, and after we were done our hands ripped some of the tinsel and were covered with sparkles.

[Tibs]

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The original intention was not to be used as a crutch, but to prevent people from toppling backwards while playing; a safety measure. In fact, I think it actually says somewhere in the konami handbook for a DDR machine that you're not to hold onto it.

All machines now have a hand grip on the bar. GG.

[MixMasterLar]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patashu
"The original intention was not to be used as a crutch, but to prevent people from toppling backwards while playing; a safety measure. In fact, I think it actually says somewhere in the konami handbook for a DDR machine that you're not to hold onto it. "

They lied

And even so, by the time DDR Extreme came out Konami knew what that bar was going to be used for. So by Konami's rules, THE BAR IS FAIR PLAY!

The End

[ckj846]

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Using the bar is not cheating in my eyes, but if you want to draw a crowd, don't bar rape because it is hilarious and entertaining to watch a random kid playing DDR who is flailing around trying to hit the arrows. Sure, using the bar helps some people, but I think it is more fun without it. Stamina really isn't an issue for me and I have never used the bar in my life so I guess I got used to it. The way I see it, if you can read the steps and you just don't have enough stamina to do it, use the bar. If you can do both and you want to get some attention and a few laughs, don't. I really don't consider either way cheating, just a different playing style.
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This type of thread has been done so many times, it isn't even funny. Look through other threads first before posting a really stupid question that really ends up in everyone kicking and scratching at each other for no apparent reason. Use the bar or don't, nobody cares/should care so don't make a big deal about it. Oh and about the seniority crap... it only happens to people who DESERVE it. Everyone gets mocked when they are dumbasses, it happens. Life goes on, deal with it.
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[Silver_Brian]

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@Lar:
[quote=patashu] quoted stuff [/quote ]

[MixMasterLar]

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??? I dont get (btw me and pc's dont mix)

[Shashakiro]

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I've never heard a good reason to try to play without the bar, and it DOES make things easier, so I personally will use it 100% of the time it's there, even on the easiest of songs.

It's like screenshrinking in FFR. It makes everything easier and I have never heard a good reason not to do it. So I always do, 100% of the time, even on the easiest of songs.

[Metalmuppet]

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I use the bar on the exhaustion runs on like Max 300, Maxx unlimited, Paranoia Survivor, Legend of Max, and even the songs on ITG that are 10+ footers. I still have to increase the endurance of my feet to pass songs like Hardcore of the North, Delirium, VerTex, Euphoria, PSMO, July, Tell, and Pandemodium. I've passed 11-footers like Charlene, The Beginning, Utopia, Xuxa, and Infection.

[Tibs]

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HERES A LIST OF HARD SONGS I CAN PASS AM I COOL NOW?

lol no

[SCWolf]

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I allways use the bar, now matter what, and they say if you use the bar it doesn't take as much energy out of you. Well energy isn't a problem for me, I have ADHD, so i could play Pandemonuim on chalenge on SM for PS2 without the bar, and still be able to run 10 laps around a football field.

[Tibs]

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ADHD gives you unlimited stamina.

[darkshark]

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ADHD gives you unlimited stamina.

thats awesome, i want unlimited stamina, but i dont want the attention span of a tennis racket, so ill pass

[DJSBX]

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Ok ok.. I'm not gonna give a big speach or anything because well I know people will get mad at me for it.

I for one am a no bar guy. I dont need it, and I can get around 10 greats on max300 and PS (both heavy of course) without the bar. So You can all guess that I would be one of those people to say stuff like "The bar makes the game easyer etc" I wont go into anything like that but I DO have to say one thing.

In the very first post he says "Using the bar or not, it doesnt make a difference" (not exact quote)

FALSE!!!!

It does make a difference, and alot of the REALLY good players who use the bar even admit it. It makes the game easyer. More stamina, more balance, and just overall it gives more everything to the player. It basically removes a good portion of weight (from the upper body) making it easyer to move faster and to have more stamina.

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I personally think using the bar is cheating, but I know I will NEVER win that argument ^^;