Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

[star reaper]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

Honestly i think every post here should be used at some point in time. Also i think there should be a point system so as to perma ban anyone who goes over say 10 points per month. this idea would keep most people acting with some sort of restraint as to what kind of crap they can pull before paying for it.

[raskanally]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

Honestly i think every posted here should be used at some point in time. Also i think there should be a point system so as to perma ban anyone who goes over say 10 points per month. this idea would keep most people acting with some sort of restraint as to what kind of crap they can pull without paying for it.

+1

[Netjet!]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

Honestly i think every posted here should be used at some point in time. Also i think there should be a point system so as to perma ban anyone who goes over say 10 points per month. this idea would keep most people acting with some sort of restraint as to what kind of crap they can pull without paying for it.

Technically vBulletin already has that. You can enable infractions, and when a user gets, say, 10, they can get banned for a specified time.

[TC_Halogen]

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Technically vBulletin already has that. You can enable infractions, and when a user gets, say, 10, they can get banned for a specified time.

this needs to be used more. then people can't play the "wrongfully banned" card.

[igotrhythm]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

Since we're focusing on a renaissance in the community instead of just new bells and whistles to add to the site itself, I'm thinking that the FFR "sample pack" on Kongregate that went up before the big crash needs to be expanded and updated. Seeing as I've seen ads in brick-and-mortar game stores like GameStop for the site, this hardly seems like a bad time investment.

Of course, to do so we'd need to get the green light from Tasselfoot, who uploaded the original one, and I don't see that going smoothly.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

ways to improve FFR:

- get users off of the complacency pedestal that they're sitting on
- get users to be less rude and more welcoming as a whole to everyone, rather than treating certain people like shit - I mean, look at yaboy; he gets targeted left and right for being a douchebag and acts like one because he knows that no one will ever take him seriously. i've never had issues with him on DF; he's a cool person, but that's just me

*Ahem* this is a RIDICULOUSLY HUGE PROBLEM! There's been a "Haters gon hate! I'll decide to like or hate someone, and follow through with it forever no matter what" attitude that's basically been making the community distrust itself. Have you seen the Vocamania and SMO forums? You never see that "digging through old posts" shit happening or all the massive trolling that happens here over on those sites, and when it does happen, the users get punished with reason. My suggestion: Stop being retarded trolls

- host more events that involve the community outside of the forums; advertise tournaments with larger prize pools on the front page to get more and more people involved - this will cause newer users to trickle into the forums and more involved with the community just so as long as people are willing to be nice to newer communities

A big problem with tournaments is prizes - a lot of guys are just sitting with millions and doing nothing with the credits lol.

- break elitism in a lot of different things, such as segregation of skill levels (which was a good idea in theory, but worked out horribly with people trying to steal the spotlight at the top of the chain), simfiling, etc.

Again, this has to do with the community trolling itself and being distrustful. Vocamania and SMO has done a great job dealing with elitism because they have nice communities.

- enforce rules as they're written, and follow through with them for everyone, regardless of who they are. There's a lot of people who think they can get away with acting like pricks to anyone/everyone and that will detract users from joining

I personally think the rules could use a revamping. The forums should feel like a safe and relaxed place to post without having to worry about exact ban lengths for really specific things. KBO for example doesn't go by exact time lengths; instead, they go by "warnings, misdemeanors, felonies, permanent" which is basically much more fair. If you can't make reasonable judgments about what you should do to a user, you probably shouldn't be in that position of power in the first place.

oh wait, why the **** am I spending time typing this message? the same people who i'm targeting as assholes/pricks/morons/idiots are going to be the ones who follow this message with their typical sarcastic shit

Again, reckless braindead trolling that continues on because it's considered "cool". But you have great ideas, I think you're worrying too much about a group of assholes that you shouldn't be affected by so much. There are always going to be negative responses and people who disagree no matter who you are, but a few trolls should not be giving you much stress if you know that you're doing your best.

[raskanally]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

I personally think the rules could use a revamping. The forums should feel like a safe and relaxed place to post without having to worry about exact ban lengths for really specific things. KBO for example doesn't go by exact time lengths; instead, they go by "warnings, misdemeanors, felonies, permanent" which is basically much more fair. If you can't make reasonable judgments about what you should do to a user, you probably shouldn't be in that position of power in the first place.

i like this on particularly.
we could have people have to pay "fines" into an admin account and use it towards tournament. If they dont pay, then they dont play.

[Emithith]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

- get users off of the complacency pedestal that they're sitting on
- get users to be less rude and more welcoming as a whole to everyone, rather than treating certain people like shit - I mean, look at yaboy; he gets targeted left and right for being a douchebag and acts like one because he knows that no one will ever take him seriously. i've never had issues with him on DF; he's a cool person, but that's just me

Please believe me when I say I have seen WAY worse on another forum. The mods would instigate flame wars, they would TROLL, and then when one person would do something like that it would be an automatic ban for 12 hrs. IF they were going to follow the rules that is. I would see so many flamewars and most of them were directed at me, for little reasons. When people would confront the mods (And even an admin once) the threads would break out in paranoia from the mods in question, and be closed extremely fast.



Anyway, I think we should get the Widget up for Kongregate again. I am SURE people would flock back if they knew FFR was back up. Especially if we somehow got the game featured.

edit:

Since we're focusing on a renaissance in the community instead of just new bells and whistles to add to the site itself, I'm thinking that the FFR "sample pack" on Kongregate that went up before the big crash needs to be expanded and updated. Seeing as I've seen ads in brick-and-mortar game stores like GameStop for the site, this hardly seems like a bad time investment.

Of course, to do so we'd need to get the green light from Tasselfoot, who uploaded the original one, and I don't see that going smoothly.

^ohsnap, someone actually ninja'd my idea. Kinda.
:\ I don't even think Tass would care if someone took the API and modified it, or even created a new one. Someone should get on this. It would be the first feasible step for getting us out there again.

[00Razor00]

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A very nice addition they have is help sections in the forum for different languages. And it works VERY well. I've seen spanish, japanese, and other languages spoken on this site and it would be great to have people who can speak those languages help out.

Too bad this will never happen because A) the FFR staff will not appoint multilingual people to mod said forums or other areas of the site, B) they also want to enforce this "English only" policy which will defer non-English users from joining and C) they don't really care even though it's been suggested literally a thousand times that they do.

[psychoangel691]

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I was against the English only rule and I mentioned it. But it's not my decision.

[krunkykai22]

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As to the "multi-lingual" MODS/Members/ADMINS, personally, if you cannot speak english, why MOD or ADMIN you? I feel that everyone should have some sort of "english" since, obviously, look around. However, I also believe that this site itself, regardless of the fact that it was created by an American, should allow for change anyway. The only thing I would suggest is keeping a tab on the language. How many times do you think you walk into a McDonalds or whatever and the "non-speaking don't wanna speak english "People" " In the back start cursing people out in another language. Rofl. At least have a translator present at all times for everyone who wants to enjoy that conversation via forum/pro chat/vid chat/ etc.

Honestly i think every post here should be used at some point in time. Also i think there should be a point system so as to perma ban anyone who goes over say 10 points per month. this idea would keep most people acting with some sort of restraint as to what kind of crap they can pull before paying for it.

This is a great idea, however, would bring upon nothing. If a system like this would happen, the same people are going to troll and troll and troll just because, they hate authority, in a way. So what if they get to 10 points and get banned. Especially if it's for a specific time period, they will wait and come back and do it again. Than if they get perma'd make an alt. It's a never ending process, what needs to happen is some sort of ALT Account management. People need to stop making alts OR if they do, have what someone said in the hacked scores thread and have them "CORRECTLY" Mark off that account as alt so it doesn't phase the scoreboards at all.

There is a lot that is needed to happen here, but with the site owner away and some ADMINS/MODS unhappy, this site will falter very shortly it seems. Everyone needs to get back to the golden days where everything was amazing. YEARS ago.

[00Razor00]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

As to the "multi-lingual" MODS/Members/ADMINS, personally, if you cannot speak english, why MOD or ADMIN you? I feel that everyone should have some sort of "english" since, obviously, look around. However, I also believe that this site itself, regardless of the fact that it was created by an American, should allow for change anyway. The only thing I would suggest is keeping a tab on the language. How many times do you think you walk into a McDonalds or whatever and the "non-speaking don't wanna speak english "People" " In the back start cursing people out in another language. Rofl. At least have a translator present at all times for everyone who wants to enjoy that conversation via forum/pro chat/vid chat/ etc.

Has nothing to do with the point I made. I said they will not appoint people who OBVIOUSLY speak another language besides English to look over non-English areas of the site (if they were ever made.)

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

I mentioned this in the New Hacked Scores thread and I'll mention it again here:

Make it a requirement that in order to have an alternate account you must inform an administrator first. If you make an alternate account without informing beforehand, it'll get banned.

[i love you]

Re: Possible FFR Rebirth Project?

I mentioned this in the New Hacked Scores thread and I'll mention it again here:

Make it a requirement that in order to have an alternate account you must inform an administrator first. If you make an alternate account without informing beforehand, it'll get banned.

or make it so that if a member signs up with an alternate account, that account will be permanently banned automatically until that user informs an staff member/admin about it. Now, if what i have suggested were to be done, there should be a limit on how many alternate accounts a member can make before the system starts auto-banning every other alternate accounts that same users creates.

Also, good thread. Hopefully it will get somewhere unlike the other hundreds of threads that were similar to this.

[Emithith]

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Make it a requirement that in order to have an alternate account you must inform an administrator first. If you make an alternate account without informing beforehand, it'll get banned.

This and the 'foresaid idea I had needs to be done.

edit: I guess I see the point of Dossar's other idea, too thanks to icy