FFR Suggestions

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: FFR Suggestions

Oops, sorry I had the tokens mixed up, sorry for the misunderstanding

Edit:// But maybe add some whoring tokens? that was the idea

Edit2:// I edited my first post for what I meant, sorry for the confusion

[bmah]

Re: FFR Suggestions

IMO, whoring isn't exactly something that should be rewarded/encouraged, nor is it very productive.

[Darkbreezee]

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the heavy/oni tokens are to represent a milestone in your skill

it's not to commemorate whoring

get you can add ST.Scarhand there as well.. xD
although it has to be only one song , yet, i think it is a milestone as well.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Re: FFR Suggestions

IMO, whoring isn't exactly something that should be rewarded/encouraged, nor is it very productive.

Lower amounts could be obtained just by going through the level ranks, which is very productive.

As for scarhand, I disagree there, like they said, it would demean the value of the token to add whoring req. I was suggesting whore only tokens.

[bmah]

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You weren't specific anyhow. If by "whoring-type tokens" you're referring to playing a particular song/group of songs many many times, I'm against it. If you're talking about attaining a certain grand total or something, then maybe...but I still don't like that idea very much.

[Darkbreezee]

Re: FFR Suggestions

same here...
arrow mashing is far from true skill, and that is what you do if you want to get a total amount of points during a small time cap.

[justin_ator]

Re: FFR Suggestions

But something you guys have to think about is that a whoring token encourages people to play more, and a lot of people don't just whore mindlessly...it's a good way to rack up some gt points, and also to exercise your stamina abilities. I think gamewhoring tokens are a decent idea. What is the worst that comes from whoring tokens? The arrow guessing game gets harder?

Seriously though...what are the real disadvantages? Whoring 1bil points isn't going to hurt the game or community any, just might provide me some discomfort. I agree mashing songs mindlessly is not productive towards building skill, but a token or two for racking up points isn't going to make people mash for life. I think it's an interesting new idea for more tokens and shouldn't be shot down too quick.

+1.
Good idea, Saxrunner

[SeraphinEveles]

Re: FFR Suggestions

I'd like to take a minute, and clarify what i was talking about, since vel seems to be thread watching now.

Okay so, on everyone's profile there's this:



however, as far as i understand it, this no longer shows AAA/FC count for TOKEN songs.

what I'd like to see, is an additional "game-play stats" for AAA/FC of token songs.

also, on that note, a number counter (in place of TP) for number of tokens unlocked. yes i know, you can always look at the tokens and count them, but it'd be nice to see it in xxx/xxx format.

does that clear it up?

[rayword45]

Re: FFR Suggestions

Either I'm missing something, or there's no Left/Right turn mods.

And I don't see why not, since the LD engine has them.

[bmah]

Re: FFR Suggestions

Changes the pattern of a file significantly (mirror still preserves the original chart to a greater degree), so those options were taken out. People would take advantage of that too much, and it really reduces the acknowledgement of the original file.

[rayword45]

Re: FFR Suggestions

Changes the pattern of a file significantly (mirror still preserves the original chart to a greater degree), so those options were taken out. People would take advantage of that too much, and it really reduces the acknowledgement of the original file.

I read that as "makes certain files too easy" (Excuse me if this assumption is wrong)

The only case where that is really true is Blooddrunk, since all other files where it allows an advantage (such as TTE) become more difficult in other sections (48th walls/polyrhythms).

Other reading: Artistic value

I don't see that being much of a problem, unfortunately I can't find the damn words.

[bmah]

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I read that as "makes certain files too easy" (Excuse me if this assumption is wrong)

The only case where that is really true is Blooddrunk, since all other files where it allows an advantage (such as TTE) become more difficult in other sections (48th walls/polyrhythms).

This is what I'm saying, and to be clear, you're not referring the left/right scroll mods - you're talking about mods that change the file itself right?

In which case, yes, it does make certain files too easy, and it's more than just one or two songs that in your opinion you feel is easier. Regardless, it changes what the simfile artist stepped and meant to be played as.

[justin_ator]

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I'm confused.
Left and Right scroll still exist, but if he isn't talking about that then what is he referring to?

[bmah]

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He's talking about left/right turn mods, which changes the file itself - resulting in preferentially left or right-handed patterns (try it on Stepmania and see for yourself).

[hi19hi19]

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left and right turn

Imagine the DDR dance pad, then turn it 90 degrees left or right. That's what the left and right mods do.
It alters the feel of the file waaaaay more than merely mirror, that's why they were taken out. Gotta preserve some of what the simfile artist intended the file to feel like, even if you might not agree with it!