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  • rade0110
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 1253

    #121
    Re: This will help FFR as a whole

    Originally posted by Windscarredfaith
    Here's another suggestion on what premium members could get:

    You know how we can see the total score for songs that we are highest ranked on? Well, I dunno about other people, but I really can't tell how many goods I get nor my combo just by looking at the score... I know that Shash and Tass explained the breakdown of the scoring system, but it would be nice to see the actual screenshot of the breakdown of the song (like the Multiplayer Stats). Not only can we look at own own, we should be able to look at other peoples' too, and maybe look at everyone else's Level Stats.
    Ironically, I mentioned this to tass like a month ago. He said that it would use up 5X the memory or something so it wouldn't work. BTW I like the level stats idea. I mentioned it on the last page but still XP
    Originally posted by Synthlight
    Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

    Cheers,

    Synthlight

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    • Tasselfoot
      Retired BOSS
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jul 2003
      • 25185

      #122
      Re: This will help FFR as a whole

      the scoring system really isn't that difficult.....

      1000*combo + 550*perfects + 275*goods + 55*averages - 20*boos - 310*misses = score
      RIP

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      • Synthlight
        Administrator
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Administrator
        • Nov 2002
        • 3060

        #123
        Re: This will help FFR as a whole

        Originally posted by Windscarredfaith
        Here's another suggestion on what premium members could get:

        You know how we can see the total score for songs that we are highest ranked on? Well, I dunno about other people, but I really can't tell how many goods I get nor my combo just by looking at the score... I know that Shash and Tass explained the breakdown of the scoring system, but it would be nice to see the actual screenshot of the breakdown of the song (like the Multiplayer Stats). Not only can we look at own own, we should be able to look at other peoples' too, and maybe look at everyone else's Level Stats.
        I like this idea alot but we would have to record about 250,000-300,000 games per day into the database and the storage and data retrieval would be enormous. I can see extended stats being recorded for premium members of the system though and also premium members being able to check extended stats of other premium members. We could swing that on the DB.

        Cheers,

        Synthlight

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        • Dronak
          FFR Veteran
          • Jun 2004
          • 601

          #124
          Re: This will help FFR as a whole

          Originally posted by Tasselfoot
          the scoring system really isn't that difficult.....

          1000*combo + 550*perfects + 275*goods + 55*averages - 20*boos - 310*misses = score
          True. But, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think the point was that given score, it's not always a simple matter to determine combo, perfects, goods, averages, boos, and misses. Sometimes it might be nice to be able to see that breakdown.

          Essentially retired now, but still ranked on the list of FFR's Top One Handers.
          One-Hander Skill Tokens unlocked: The V2 Token, The Patience Token, X_X1MissX_X, AAA v5, T.H.E.G.A.M.E.T.O.K.E.N
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          • rade0110
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2004
            • 1253

            #125
            Re: This will help FFR as a whole

            It is nice to see the breakdown. Most players keep individual track of their scores but it would be pretty sweet to see other peoples scores set the same way. What if there were premium member tournaments? Different skill levels would be set just like the one shash ran. Think of how many people complained that they couldn't enter it. That could be a huge draw-in.

            Edit*
            On a sadder note, I can't click my avatar to change either my siggy or my av Instead of having the avatar there all that's there are the words "Click here to change your avatar" or something like that. Help?
            P.S. Tried clearing my cache
            Last edited by rade0110; 12-2-2006, 11:21 PM.
            Originally posted by Synthlight
            Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

            Cheers,

            Synthlight

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            • JasonKey
              FFR Underseer
              • Jul 2003
              • 2643

              #126
              Re: This will help FFR as a whole

              regarding your avatar within the profile, are you seeing that on FFR.com or one of the mirrors?

              So no question mark there or something, as we can see your avatar in your profile here on FFR, but there could in theory be issues within the mirrors.

              Let me know and I can see whats up with that.

              Originally posted by rade0110
              It is nice to see the breakdown. Most players keep individual track of their scores but it would be pretty sweet to see other peoples scores set the same way. What if there were premium member tournaments? Different skill levels would be set just like the one shash ran. Think of how many people complained that they couldn't enter it. That could be a huge draw-in.

              Edit*
              On a sadder note, I can't click my avatar to change either my siggy or my av Instead of having the avatar there all that's there are the words "Click here to change your avatar" or something like that. Help?
              P.S. Tried clearing my cache

              Originally posted by Synthlight
              I will be fix this. No worries. It happened during a version upgrade.
              Cheers,
              Synthlight

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              • rade0110
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2004
                • 1253

                #127
                Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                I go directly to www.flashflashrevolution.com and login under my name. I'll give you a pic of what shows up when I go to my profile.



                This has been happening for about 3 or 4 days now. Don't really understand why but if someone could help me out I would appreciate it because I really would like to use that siggy. Thanks!
                Originally posted by Synthlight
                Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

                Cheers,

                Synthlight

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                • Twasi
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4

                  #128
                  Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                  Ok well here's my 2 cents.

                  First off, the payment should come in something like monthly, bi-annually or annually. The reasons for this is it gives the people who don't have a lot of money the ability to pay what they can when they can instead of dedicating a years worth of subscription up front, much like bi-annually would. Annually would be for those who don't want to keep paying over and over and would get it all out of the way with one payment. (Having 3 options also doesn't add clutter)

                  You should also stress these american express pre-paid cards. They deffinetely would bring in way more subscribers because it gives a way for all the people who are under 18 a simple way to pay, walk down to practicly any store with your money, buy the pre-paid card and plug in the numbers where it asks for CC # and there ya go. (This should be stressed when you launch the service, make an annoucement inside of it, and in the FAQ about it make a section called something like "What if I don't have a CC?" and then suggest the prepaid card.

                  That brings me to the next subject, cost. I think the two best choices would be $2 or $5. My reasoning being that most anyone can bring in a $10 spot and buy the lowest denomination of prepaid card, and that would last you 2 months or 5. $2 might not be enough to support FFR, but if you think of the amount of people who would be like "It's only $2! sure!" opposed to those if it were $5 think "whoa... that's $60 a year" I'm sure if it was $2 you could get a huge majority of people to sign up. (You have to remember most people here don't have a CC so you'll have to assume they are going to have to use the pre-paid cards so you won't want the service to cost something that will leave an odd amount on the card like $3.50)

                  As for features (most have been stated already)

                  - Custom titles (very minor but it is nice to have, especially for $2)

                  - Private forums (will provide a small buffer to the extremely redundant topics from new comers)

                  - No ads (if they play enough to pay odds are they aren't clicking your ads anyways)

                  - SoTW early (probably one of the best features, and will tempt the impatient)

                  - Special chat rooms (get away from spammers possibly)

                  - Instant access to songs

                  - "Favorite song section" I don't know if this is feasible but I hate having to jump all around to find my favorite songs, maybe make a button once you click on the song that will "copy" it to a new tab "like dance, rock, classical" but instead it's 'favorites' so you can just go there and all the songs you like will be there, and you can remove and add songs are you like.

                  - Offer some different skins for the message boards that only members get

                  - Second high scores list that clears every 2 weeks are something? (It could be only for people who are subscribers and it would give everyone their shot at being #1)

                  - In the profile "top 10 level stats" increase this to 20

                  - Custom emoticons on the message boards

                  just some ideas, would like some feed back.

                  Also I think selling credits is a marvelous idea. Sell them in 500 credit packages.

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                  • rade0110
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1253

                    #129
                    Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                    The 2 week highscores to me seem unnecessary. Because I know there would a lot of the top players joining the premium members group. Thus causing many of the same highscores there are now. But yeah most of the stuff you mentioned was already discussed. I like the custom emoticons idea though. Don't know how popular it would be but I still like it.
                    Originally posted by Synthlight
                    Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

                    Cheers,

                    Synthlight

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                    • RB_Dreamscanner
                      ☭Retired Top One Hander☭
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1789

                      #130
                      Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                      im with rade
                      "The Communist vision is the vision of man without God"



                      Retired, Finished at rank 295, Top one hander on FFR

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                      • Windscarredfaith
                        (づ ̄ � ̄)づ watermelon
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 2612

                        #131
                        Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                        I really like the "Favorite Song Section" idea. Like in the Dance genre, there are WAY too many pages now. It would be nice to add all your favorite songs to one custom page.

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                        • insupherable
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 40

                          #132
                          Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                          Yea, I'm canadian, and I'd definitely attend a more central/northern 'pow-wow' with a bit of cash in hand for any FFR merchandise that may be there to purchase (wink wink @ synth)

                          My ongoing collection of personally created stepfiles. Enjoy - Keyboard only.

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                          • Coca Cola
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 90

                            #133
                            Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                            Originally posted by rade0110
                            I go directly to www.flashflashrevolution.com and login under my name. I'll give you a pic of what shows up when I go to my profile.



                            This has been happening for about 3 or 4 days now. Don't really understand why but if someone could help me out I would appreciate it because I really would like to use that siggy. Thanks!
                            That happens to me too sometimes. Don't worry. Other people can still see your avatar.

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                            • insupherable
                              FFR Player
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 40

                              #134
                              Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                              Posted here why?

                              My ongoing collection of personally created stepfiles. Enjoy - Keyboard only.

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                              • Synthlight
                                Administrator
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Administrator
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 3060

                                #135
                                Re: This will help FFR as a whole

                                So we took another big step and I acquired financing for another REALLY expensive server to handle the Database load. This will also allow us to regain some features we turned off to keep the server from exploding. I would expect this server to atleast get us through the first half of 2007. Now that I have the financing. It's time to figure out how to pay that server. I think the idea list we have so far is nearly complete and was just wondering if anyone had any additional thoughts.

                                Through the membership signup, we can set it so that it has automated recurring charges so that you don't have to beg your parents every month. And at the same time supporting bi-annual or annual automatic payments.

                                I am working here today to squash some credit bugs that are long standing and will be (hopefully) auto-detecting people who have cheated their credits. It will move their credit count to 0.

                                I was also thinking (sorry, I am sort of random today) that members would have a contact email for very quick support concerning billing, site issues or suggestions.

                                Cheers,

                                Synthlight
                                Last edited by Synthlight; 12-7-2006, 01:39 PM.

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