Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

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  • #1
    FFR Player
    sevinon
    • Dec 2017
    • 7

    Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

    I was wondering if there's any reason that saving is disabled for song rates above 1 (since they should only increase the difficulty relative to the nominal rating).

    I find it really pointless (and boring) playing through 90 second+ NPS<8 songs to fill out my average rank, but it's a lot of fun clearing the easiest songs at higher speeds.
  • #2
    longing
    Dinglesberry
    • Dec 2007
    • 2742

    Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

    because it makes it easier to AAA all the really easy songs that are long

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    • #3
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      xXOpkillerXx
      • Dec 2008
      • 4219

      Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

      If you find it boring to improve your Average rank, which really isn't the main metric of skill at all, then don't improve it. There's no point in making rates above 1.0 count.

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      • #4
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        SK8R43
        • Jan 2008
        • 4686

        Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

        ...improving your average rank is the ONLY point of this game. Theres no reason to play it if you dont play all of the songs lol

        On the topic though, it has been discussed many times and majority of people say it shouldnt count for many reasons. For one it distorts the music and completely loses the whole point of the game, which is listening to the music. Secondly, it makes whoring the game that much easier. Theres probably other reasons that i cant think of ATM but you get the point.
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        • #5
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          xXOpkillerXx
          • Dec 2008
          • 4219

          Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

          Originally posted by SK8R43
          ...improving your average rank is the ONLY point of this game. Theres no reason to play it if you dont play all of the songs lol

          On the topic though, it has been discussed many times and majority of people say it shouldnt count for many reasons. For one it distorts the music and completely loses the whole point of the game, which is listening to the music. Secondly, it makes whoring the game that much easier. Theres probably other reasons that i cant think of ATM but you get the point.
          Dude at times you should think a minute before submitting your posts, you seem to often be generating a lot of noise.

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          • #6
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            rushyrulz
            • Feb 2006
            • 13109

            Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

            Imagine presenting your subjective reason for playing as objective fact and managing to contradict yourself all in in 100 words or less


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            • #7
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              Josemba
              • Nov 2011
              • 262

              Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

              The point of this game is making yourself an amazing profile.

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              • #8
                Venetian Snares stepper
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                ositzxz369
                • Jan 2008
                • 546

                Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                The point of this game is converting others into liking your musical taste (whether through the song itself or the steps).

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                • #9
                  D7 Elite Keymasher
                  SK8R43
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4686

                  Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                  The point of the game is listening to the music, aka playing all of the songs....why else are they in the game? So you can pick and choose 10 songs to make your level higher? LMAO no
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                  • #10
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                    Matthia
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 511

                    Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                    The point of the game is to get high level

                    Average rank is just an option for long-run players



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                    • #11
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                      sevinon
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 7

                      Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                      Makes sense. I guess I'll go back to ignoring average rank then.

                      Thanks for the clarifications.

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                      • #12
                        D7 Elite Keymasher
                        SK8R43
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4686

                        Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                        Negative. Level is a fairly new thing. Average rank has always been here.
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                        • #13
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                          psychoangel691
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 10622

                          Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                          Originally posted by SK8R43
                          The point of the game is listening to the music, aka playing all of the songs....why else are they in the game? So you can pick and choose 10 songs to make your level higher? LMAO no
                          No one is ever going to enjoy every song that's put into this game, it's silly to say the whole point of the game is to listen to -ALL- the songs. If it were just about listening to music I'd just use YouTube or Spotify.

                          Plus really, the "point" of this game can be different for different people. I enjoy tapping along to songs I like listening to, anything I don't is a chore for me. I'm not the type that cares to be the best of the best, but for others, the point of this game is to reach that level. Some people play for competition, some play just to have something to do with friends, some people are completionists that want every song played/FCed/AAAd whatever.
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                          • #14
                            The Doctor
                            TheSaxRunner05
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 6366

                            Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                            On a serious note, I do think Rates above 1x should count to increase enjoyment of the game. It gives another avenue to interact more with FFR and increase activity around here. I liked Etienne's video about rates awhile back, it had some good points.


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                            • #15
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                              Josemba
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 262

                              Re: Can Song Rates Over 1 Count?

                              I prefer a rate ranking like Etterna has

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